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Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by giorgioz on Sunday June 18, 2023 @03:10AM (#36378012)
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" We just did not know any better (yet).

49.72% of human beings are women. Among those my mother and two sisters which are medical doctors. Stop blaming men for everything we did not manage to fix. Plenty of us did try.

"It's better to light a candle than curse the darkness" and "Be the change you want to see in the world". As a man, I can tell you that I will personally celebrate anytime a woman joins STEM and fix/invent something new.

Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by jelliclesfarm on Sunday June 18, 2023 @04:18AM (#36378288)
Sorry, I didn’t get your point. Are you saying that women are solely responsible for inventing ‘something new’ in healthcare as it is only used for them?
Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by carstenhag on Sunday June 18, 2023 @05:00AM (#36378487)
You made a really heavy claim with "The entire field of gynecology is founded upon intentional sadistic torture of women by male physicians".

The other person is saying that there are many male and female doctors. If there would be a better option, it for sure would have been made possible. It's not male gyns wanting women to suffer - this doesn't make any sense, it's only there to create hate.

Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by rhaway84773 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @06:05AM (#36378806)
There “are”. But for most of medicine’s history there “weren’t”.

And men were making decisions about things they simply had no idea about.

Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by rangelreale on Sunday June 18, 2023 @07:00AM (#36379075)
Using the same analogy, then all veterinarians are sadistic?
Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by rowanG077 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @08:58AM (#36379899)
Your claim simply can't be explained with historical data. Women have entered the medical field for decades upon decades.
Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by jelliclesfarm on Sunday June 18, 2023 @12:24PM (#36381661)
What has advancements in medical equipment and diagnostics have to do with women studying to become physicians? Pharmacology and medical equipment is an industry.

Further: [..]Historically, medical studies have excluded female participants and research data have been collected from males and generalized to females. The gender gap in medical research, alongside overarching misogyny, results in real-life disadvantages for female patients.[..]

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8909483/

Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by rowanG077 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @04:27PM (#36384114)
Because even in the 70s gynecologist practices were already significantly changing due to women doctors entering the field. Claiming that something so easily changed isn't done because "the entire field of gynecology is founded upon intentional sadistic torture of women by male physicians" is totally ridiculous. It's so far divorced from reality that it's lands you in troll territory.
Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by rubyn00bie on Sunday June 18, 2023 @06:17AM (#36378856)
> 49.72% of human beings are women. Among those my mother and two sisters which are medical doctors. Stop blaming men for everything we did not manage to fix. Plenty of us did try.

You’re taking this awful personally. Plenty did not try and it was documented as such for pretty much all of human history. Don’t try to whitewash history when it doesn’t agree with your narrative. I’m honestly shocked at how entitled you are to even spout your opinion like it’s at all factual.

Grow up and realize it’s best not to take everything personally. Especially things you will never really understand.

Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by dennis_jeeves1 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @10:55AM (#36380843)
>Stop blaming men for everything we did not manage to fix.

There is a whole class of women whose preoccupation and often careers is based on criticizing men. These very the same women who often are incapable of doing any real work, and often cannot empathize with the large number of working class men who often go through the extreme struggles (including forms of discrimination) just to survive.

Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by 40yearoldman on Sunday June 18, 2023 @12:20PM (#36381627)
I even more so when 99% of men don’t even know what a speculum is, or have any clue about the subject matter.
Re:Tenaculum: For over 100 Years Women Have Endured Pain in ... by 28304283409234 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @01:36PM (#36382376)
There are more areas of colour between that black and white spectrum of “malice” and “ignorance”.

In this case, the system favours research geared towards men, because money, because more men decided where the researchmoney is to be spent. This all has historical backgrounds that are all ver understandable. But ignorance? Malice? Both? Or something in between?

Ignoring this pain is at this point certainly malicious. And I see too many comments here for comfort that are of that nature.