Firefox with uBlock Origin and various about:config flags disabling telemetry, autocomplete, etc.

You're putting a lot of faith in uBlock Origin though. You have to grant it full permissions when you install it. Not at all saying that uBlock Origin is doing anything nefarious, but it certainly could.

I mean, anything you install on your hardware can do something nefarious. Edge is built into Windows, so who knows how deep its permissions can go.

Luckily uBlock Origin is open source and viewable on github, and isn't driven by greed. So I trust it more than Microsoft or any big tech company.

Well some people are putting a lot of faith in Chrome, which is owned by Google. I don't know which choice is more risky...

Yeap, everything can do nefarious things.

But, somehow I trust a random dev that refuses to accept donations, even though my cheap ass would definitely donate to him, more than Microsoft, apple and (insert BigTech here)

I have more faith in gorhill behaving ethically than either of Mozilla, Google, Microsof or Apple, yes.

Orion browser by Kagi is a browser you can pay for. Another one I know of is SigmaOS. Both are Mac only, not sure about the state of things on other platforms.

Orion Browser is free. Payments are possible by donating or subscribing to either Orion+ or Kagi Search.

I'm told that browser is Brave

Unfortunately brave is forever cemented in my mind as being linked to the brave shitcoin.

Is the Brave shitcoin really worse than all the stupid-ass stunts and services Mozilla has pulled over the years?

I'm not saying better or worse, I'm just saying that it's an embarassment.

Integration of pocket never sent your data to pocket or made you use it. It's scandals are entirely boring.

"But that other guy is just as bad" is never a good argument.

The opt-in brave shitcoin?

An opt-in shitcoin ... that attempts to approach the advertising market in a new way, which I find genuinely interesting. And I'm an anti-advertising zealot.

Any shitcoin whatsoever.

How can you pay for Brave?

I don't get how brave even among non techie friends have gotten such a "progressive" reputation.

It's a freaking shitcoin browser, but that probably means enormous PR budgets.

Sad that a mozilla has apparently sunk itself in the meantime.

It's really a sad dystopian future we live in compared to the cypherpunk optimism of the 90's.

Brave is indeed a fantastic browser, and their recent introduction of vertical tabs is the cherry on top.

Netscape Navigator Gold

Opera GX

But Opera has been sold to Chinese companies, so those who are concerned about surveillance may not be comfortable with it. Opera's founder later created Vivaldi, which I have used ever since

> Safari

Yes.

No source code= black box you can't trust.

Well, the rendering engine is open source.

https://webkit.org

That is a disingenuous response. I have a program that uses open source libraries, but the program is closed.

Such a weird thing to post in reply.

It has a 'nuh uh' feeling, but doesn't actually refute the parent. However it seeds doubt in the parent argument without ever touching the parent argument.

All the bad things of Edge we're discussing here are not in the rendering engine, so who cares about that?