Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by vkou on Saturday June 10, 2023 @10:33PM
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They wouldn't be a step backwards, they'd be a step sideways.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by DiggyJohnson on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:05PM
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What about inside those cities? Like from my apartment on this side of town to the other side.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by satvikpendem on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:10PM
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What about the inside? I live in NYC and its metro and bus system is amazing, and even then it's still worse than what I experienced in Asia, we're for example in Seoul, I did not have to walk more than five minutes to be able to get on a train or bus and when I got off, I similarly did not have to walk more than five minutes to get to my end destination.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by valval on Sunday June 11, 2023 @03:19AM
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What about someone who doesn’t want to travel with other people in public transport, and also doesn’t want to walk the 10 minutes of the journey?
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by satvikpendem on Sunday June 11, 2023 @03:37AM
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Then I guess it's their loss. Unless they're unable to use public transport, I shouldn't have to have the externalities of them using cars, such as carbon emissions, parking space that would otherwise be used, noise and light pollution, etc.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by valval on Monday June 12, 2023 @04:49AM
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I guess the people having to deal with the externalities could consider them their loss.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by LikesPwsh on Sunday June 11, 2023 @05:24AM
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They could pay more to cover the externalities, and enjoy relatively empty roads.
Town centers will soon be inaccessible by car, so they'll still need public transport occasionally for that.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by oblio on Sunday June 11, 2023 @07:42AM
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> and also doesn’t want to walk the 10 minutes of the journey?
If they have a pre-existing medical condition: sure, they can use an alternative method of transportation.
If they don't want to walk for 10 minutes, they're bound to have a medical condition soon-ish.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by valval on Monday June 12, 2023 @04:54AM
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Walking seems like a waste of time to me. It's a slow form of transportation and a very inefficient form of exercise.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by oblio on Thursday June 15, 2023 @08:18AM
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Yet most people don't exercise, obesity is skyrocketing and personal responsibility is failing.
But hey, you got yours so who cares about others, right?
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by pharmakom on Sunday June 11, 2023 @01:54PM
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If you want avoid other people like that you probably shouldn’t live in a city.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by adgjlsfhk1 on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:17PM
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subways, trams and buses. good systems can easily be faster than cars dinner thru don't have traffic and you don't need to find parking. for short distances, bikes are also great.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by josephcsible on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:20PM
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I know I'm just one data point, but for my commute to work, taking public transit is about 30 minutes slower than driving at rush hour.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by coutego on Sunday June 11, 2023 @02:45AM
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Just another data point: walking to work takes 15 minutes for me. Same time by metro. Driving is 45-60 minutes.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by someweirdperson on Sunday June 11, 2023 @03:27AM
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Sound as if bike-roads are missing, a bike would reduce it to 5 minutes.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by worik on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:22PM
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> We need high speed rail to connect our cities.
Perhaps we need to slow down a bit, in general?
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by afavour on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:36PM
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If the rail isn’t faster than the car then it won’t ever see wide scale adoption. It’s not even remotely difficult to clear this bar when the political will exists. Why slow down when there’s no actual need to?
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by systemtest on Sunday June 11, 2023 @05:10AM
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A car can go faster from Amsterdam to Berlin than the train, yet I still see people on the train.
Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden...
by psd1 on Sunday June 11, 2023 @05:47AM
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I've paid more to take longer by train, for greater convenience and comfort.
I agree with your point in general, I'm just quibbling that speed is the decider.
We need high speed rail to connect our cities.