News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by dbingham on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:42AM (#35901920)
What is going on over there? Third day in a row is... kind of impressive.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by iepathos on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:58AM (#35902168)
They blamed the march and april outages on some database query that was changed due to an infrastructure change they rolled out. I'm guessing their infrastructure change caused some other race condition issue that they are only seeing after major production failure due to not load testing enough in their staging environment https://github.blog/2023-05-03-github-availability-report-ap...
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by edgyquant on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:01AM (#35902230)
As much as I’ve been frustrated by these outrages, we’ve all been there
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by qmacro on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:05AM (#35902269)
Now that is a good typo
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by robofanatic on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:09AM (#35902338)
could be on purpose
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by aranw on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:49AM (#35902049)
Lots of copilot generated code failing
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by practice9 on Thursday May 11, 2023 @11:35AM (#35903685)
Not only Copilot, seems like some Microsoft services like Bing AI and Bing Image Creator have some issues today as well with 4xx / 5xx, and incorrect region authorization (had to switch the account region from a European country to US to make it work again on mobile)
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by tesin on Thursday May 11, 2023 @12:43PM (#35904732)
I think you may have missed the joke - they were implying Github was using Copilot internally, causing the outages, due to poor output. Not that Copilot itself was unavailable (although that may be true, also)
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by frde on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:45AM (#35901975)
My money is on some significant backend architecture migration gone wrong without a viable way to roll back the time machine :)
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by capableweb on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:48AM (#35902037)
Feels like an organization as big as Microsoft must surely have some sort contingency plan in place before doing such a large migration. Right?
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by isbvhodnvemrwvn on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:54AM (#35902124)
Sales handing out Office365 discounts and trying to convince people that AWS and GCP is going to steal their data, judging by companies I worked for that used Azure.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by hardware2win on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:04AM (#35902263)
Wasnt it true? Thas Amazon abused their AWS position and stole their competitors data, so thats why Germany's retail businesses are building their own Clouds
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by jacooper on Thursday May 11, 2023 @12:57PM (#35904908)
Any links? Interested on reading more about this
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by belmont_sup on Thursday May 11, 2023 @04:53PM (#35908229)
Here’s one

https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-scooped-up-data-from-its...

The gist is that yes it’s true. They’d come out with their own Amazon Basics branded stuff and push it to the top.

Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by jacooper on Friday May 12, 2023 @03:11PM (#35920820)
But that's amazon, not AWS.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by xeromal on Thursday May 11, 2023 @11:15AM (#35903379)
I worked on the volume licensing part of Microsoft years ago and deployments were stressful. They'd start at friday late like 8pm or so and go until 8am in the morning. Everyone was on a long call the entire time. I hated it.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by whynotmaybe on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:55AM (#35902138)
At that point, I wondering if that's not me just because I updated some libraries on my local build agent.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by lallysingh on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:46AM (#35901995)
Azure?
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by candiddevmike on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:50AM (#35902058)
Today seems worse than yesterday. I'm getting wildly inconsistent results when viewing repositories after a push. Hard to tell if my push actually went through, and it's not triggering actions.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by robofanatic on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:51AM (#35902076)
exact same issue
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by SideburnsOfDoom on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:50AM (#35902066)
It comes in around 09:30 on US east coast.

I suspect that it's related to high load.

Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by pera on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:58AM (#35902183)
Maybe they fired too many people this time? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35334705
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by tonyhb on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:07AM (#35902295)
From an SRE, one of their DB clusters failed. They use Vitess which is great, but it can be prone to hotspots and doesn't auto-shard. Heavy usage (esp. from large customers, rogue jobs) can take down the cluster. When it goes down, it's a PITA to resolve.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by samlambert on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:09AM (#35902333)
This literally isn't true and looks awfully like the talking points of one of our competitors.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by tonyhb on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:27AM (#35902591)
Ah, unbalanced shards via wrong sharding keys was an issue at one point, IIRC. I remember talking with an SRE there when something bad happened at GitHub last year, and I know that this time the current DB cluster failed.

To be clear, I _was_ mapping previous incidents with this year's incident — no competitor or hard feelings involved. I _really_ like Vitess, fwiw.

Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by samlambert on Thursday May 11, 2023 @10:52AM (#35903040)
That wasn't clear.

Side note: "Autosharding" is largely a myth that unproven databases are touting. Sharding is complex and requires planning and control. Databases that start shuffling data round without oversight produce nasty surprises. Trying to be too magic is normally always a mistake with databases.

Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by tonyhb on Thursday May 11, 2023 @11:04AM (#35903229)
Yeah, fair, totally get it. Wasn't aiming to spread FUD, and I know that FDB is a little hard to compare against... it is pretty magic with how it routes and shards :D (https://forums.foundationdb.org/t/keyspace-partitions-perfor...)
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by tonyhb on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @05:52PM (#35968245)
For posterity: https://github.blog/2023-05-16-addressing-githubs-recent-ava...

It was the DB, and it was rogue usage on May 10, so I'm standing by my original comment

Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by cheshire137 on Thursday May 11, 2023 @12:10PM (#35904261)
What would you know, random Hacker News commen--oh. Hi Sam, carry on.
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by samlambert on Thursday May 11, 2023 @12:13PM (#35904305)
<3 Hey Sarah!
Re:Incident with Issues and Pull Requests by zamalek on Thursday May 11, 2023 @11:19AM (#35903428)
Just another day doing DevOps for a Ruby on Rails product.