samlambert

we support bare metal inside AWS, GCP, and very soon Azure

why?

Not being rude, I just do not like the work of my company being written off and under appreciated with comments like yours. Saying it's an open source alternative when it is clearly not is incredibly disingenuous.

Anyone can start a project and say it's an alternative until it achieves the same results is not an alternative. They have raised 10x more venture funding than my company, and we have out executed them with hard work. I will absolutely defend that work.

Supabase hire companies to write fake AI slop to slander competitors. https://dev.to/sivarampg/how-a-neutral-supabase-vs-convex-co... They also claim ownership over projects they dont contribute to https://x.com/jrdntgn/status/2022003873171620160 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45321794 (they have no vitess maintainers on staff now and they did not then either)

This is who you are carrying water for.

Neki right now:

Multiple live shards: yes

Query routing across shards: yes

Online shard splitting: yes

Zero-downtime resharding: yes

Multiple independent shard groups: yes

Data topology management: yes

HA / automated failover: yes

Multi-AZ: yes

Connection pooling: yes

Online schema changes: yes

Workflow-driven migrations/cutovers: yes

Zero-downtime imports: yes

CDC / logical replication: yes

Online Postgres version upgrade workflows: yes

Cross-shard transactions: coming

Multigres today:

Multiple live shards: no

Query routing across shards: no

Online shard splitting: no

Resharding: no

Multiple shard groups: no

HA / failover: yes

Multi-AZ: yes

Connection pooling: yes

Logical replication/import work: in progress

Distributed migration/resharding workflows: no

How it is an it's an alternative? Do you just say things without validating?

It cost $250,000 to do this run but it feels worth it.

People think comments like this really bother me as if I believe that I've missed out on any dollars at all from you, as if you have the buying power or ability to drive any workloads that would in any way move the needle on my revenue.

I want to let you know that I have customers that pay PlanetScale millions of dollars and have told me they came to the product because of my Twitter account. So you will never make me feel bad about this.

undecided right now

thank you!

correct. AWS do anti-competitive stuff to us all the time we can't make it any easier for them.

i have been struggling to hire enough physicists

yes

every metric we have proves otherwise

It makes me so happy to hear you had a good experience. Thank you for being a customer.

what does a mysql pivot mean? like literally what do you think we have done here technically that could be considered a mysql pivot?

very kind of you to say tony

who said open source has no value? I worked at GitHub for 6 years i clearly love open source.

We maintain Vitess using our company funds. Why are you going after a small company for defending itself against companies like Amazon but not criticizing the reason we have to do this.

I would love to open source Neki and I have not said we won't.

My customers aren't pretending it's a bad thing that Neki isn't open source.

it works and does sharding

have you ever worked for a customer of AWS? If so you have contributed heavily to the destruction of commercial open source.

I can fully understand why someone would think that.

lol are you an amazon customer?

The largest database to ever run on Aurora MySQL runs on PlanetScale, and the largest database to ever run on Aurora limitless also runs on PlanetScale.

nothing i have said is untrue. a founder of a company leaving to compete out of greed is a bad thing and i am glad to call it out.

How does open source have anything to do with Neki's ability to scale against a service that doesn't even do sharding.

We literally have the counterfactual of the old product and company before he left. We can fully discount Multigres doing anything.

The authors of Neki and this post are here to answer any questions!

we have not once claimed postgres is under our control. i don't think you understand how open source works but thats ok.

> I want to see it fail first.

your lack of experience at scale doesn't really invalidate this architecture

> Transactional queries are usually limited to something like "get a single record, preferably from cache".

simply wrong