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Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by jazzyjackson on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @11:00PM (#35883158)
> I have 55k tweets, that would be a nightmare to host locally)

theyre tweets, how much could they cost? @ 280 bytes each, that's like 15MB. double it for cryptographic signatures and reply-to metadata. is that really too much to ask for the capacity to transfer to another host at anytime?

(also, leaving aside the fact that 55k tweets puts you in the 0.1% of most prodigious users)

Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by MattRix on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @12:53AM (#35883766)
There’s also all the media to go along with them.
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by acjohnson55 on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @12:59AM (#35883802)
Ok, so add some more megabytes to that. Most people don't have that much microblogging data.
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by Wowfunhappy on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @06:59AM (#35885788)
I actually think photos could potentially add up to quite a lot!
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by acjohnson55 on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @08:30AM (#35886395)
Sure, they could. Most people don't post tons of hi res photos. But I'm sure there are ways you could optimize to not have all the content on local device, if it's such a big deal. But this is a really strange point to me to be hung up on.
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by MattRix on Thursday May 11, 2023 @12:18PM (#35904367)
I think you’d be surprised at the number of photos posted, but also many people post tons of gifs (especially reaction gifs) which are fairly large.
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by nr2x on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @01:03AM (#35883821)
Pretty sure a nontrivial percentage of peoples smartphones have that many thumbnails for the photo gallery app alone.

Anybody who has had a smartphone for a decade likely has at minimum 10k photos in their cloud locker with local thumbnail.

Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by laserbeam on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @01:50AM (#35884084)
How did we get to 55k tweets being a nightmare for any social media platform?

A quick search got me to twitter stats from 2013 when people were posting 200 billion tweets per year. Thats 5-6 orders of magnitude more. You don't get a 10000x improvement just by federating and hosting multiple nodes.

Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by tsimionescu on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @02:02AM (#35884160)
The discussion here was about archiving each user's tweets on their own client device - this is where the 55k was brought up as a problem. I still think it's a low number, even if it includes plenty of images.
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by remram on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @09:38AM (#35887178)
With a decent amount of images and videos this can easily be 100+GB. Even if it's a fraction of that, not something I want to sync down to my device.
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by bombcar on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @01:59AM (#35884138)
I have every post made on BlueSky up to a certain point last weekend and it's only 3 GB.

I have every email I've ever received or sent (and not deleted) and it's only 4GB.

Should something require I download all that every time I login? No. But having a local copy is amazing, and a truly federated system should have and even be able to depend on those.

The Mastodon Server Covenant is a joke; the only enforcement is to remove the server from the list of signup servers; which if it just fell over dead because the admin died/doesn't care/got arrested/got a job will not matter.

Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by godzillabrennus on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @06:44AM (#35885708)
How have you pared down your email to just 4GB?
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by bombcar on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @11:30AM (#35888838)
Not sure, I guess I don't send or receive many attachments and delete marketing/spam.

My work email is 10gb.

Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by zimpenfish on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @02:01AM (#35884155)
As of my last Twitter export, I had 54425 tweets and the tweet data comes to 110M. But there's also 2G of media files that goes with it.
Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by jonathankoren on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @02:13AM (#35884228)
So… not only fits on ever popular cloud storage providers free tier, but also your phone.

Seriously. This is setting off all sorts of red flags. I’m old enough not to trust non w3c standards.

Re:The AT protocol is the most obtuse crock of s* by chrismorgan on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @03:03AM (#35884541)
> double it for cryptographic signatures and reply-to metadata

Ah, email, where a message of 114 characters with no formatting ends up over 9KB due to authentication and signatures, spam analysis stuff, delivery path information and other metadata. Sigh. Although I doubt this will end up as large as email, the lesson is that metadata can end up surprisingly large.

In this instance, I think 1–2KB is probably more realistic than the half kilobyte of “double it”.