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Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by CapstanRoller on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:30PM (#35878509)
Mass shootings aren't done by poor people. Guns are expensive. They're done by disaffected folks in the "middle class" who have money to acquire weapons and time to spend immersing themselves in online right-wing cesspits.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by dffdsa432 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:34PM (#35878567)
The most violent cities in America are all blue cities.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-viol...

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by theironhammer on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:43PM (#35878676)
And most of that is done by drug dealers fighting over turf. The shootings are highly concentrated in certain geographic areas.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by m0ped on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:33PM (#35879314)
Most cities are blue cities
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by mikeryan on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:46PM (#35879475)
Shit. Your own source disproves that if you use the most recent data

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-dang...

Take off the minimum population requirement of 100k residents and the most dangerous metro areas are all small, rural conservative towns. https://www.statista.com/statistics/433603/us-metropolitan-a...

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by alephnerd on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:05PM (#35879694)
Most of those cities on the less than 100k list have Dems in government as well, but imo this isn't a Dem-GOP issue and more of a "urban" versus "rural" issue - specifically these are all cities that have been left behind due to an oversized population of minorities (eg. Anchorage+Fairbanks for Native Americans, Memphis+Pine Bluffs+Monroe+Alexandria+Little Rock for African Americans, ABQ+Lubbock for Latino Americans) and severely deindustrialized (eg. Memphis, ABQ, Lubbock, Little Rock, Danville) due to bipartisan support of globalization in the 1990s and the collapse of the energy sector in the 1990s-2000s
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by CapstanRoller on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:59PM (#35879636)
>muh red cities

>muh blue cities

>deflecting from the larger point and arguing about team colors

It's all so tiresome.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by Incipient on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @07:47PM (#35881821)
It's not only tiresome, it's unproductive. Why it's the case is probably for a whole host of reasons - generally poor education, media, cultural.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by red-iron-pine on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @09:28AM (#35887056)
Virtually all large cities in the US are blue, even in otherwise rabidly red states.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by bombcar on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:36PM (#35878588)
Mass shootings are technically any that have a victim count over a certain number and the vast majority of those are committed by criminals with cheap weapons.

Guns are not expensive, they're way cheaper than a car. The Hipoint C9 retails new for $199. If you can afford a mobile phone (read: almost everyone in the USA) you can afford multiple guns.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by CapstanRoller on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:10PM (#35879739)
And yet the mass shooters specifically targeting minorities seem to use $1k+ AR-pattern rifles (recently with neo-Nazi shit scrawled over them), not those cheap plastic 9mm pistols. Curious!
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by rajin444 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:11PM (#35880448)
Those shooters are a fraction of a fraction of the overall rate. Red / blue is the wrong approximation here - selecting where you live based on racial makeup is going to give the most reliable results if you’re looking to avoid crime.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by CapstanRoller on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @11:52PM (#35883456)
>selecting where you live based on racial makeup is going to give the most reliable results if you’re looking to avoid crime.

Haha holy shit, I never thought I'd see someone just be so casually and brazenly racist. Incredible.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by shjake on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @01:44AM (#35884057)
It might be the outcome of racist policies or general racist attitudes but they are statistically correct.

There is a high correlation between between ethnic or racial makeup of a certain area and crime and gun violence. I’m not sure simply handwaving this by calling everyone who points that out a ‘racist’ is the most productive attitude…

Generally the same applies to poverty though which is probably a more direct indicator than race.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by slap on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @09:08AM (#35886792)
>>Generally the same applies to poverty though which is probably a more direct indicator than race.

Not the case in the US, poverty is a bad indicator, race is a good one.

Poorest white crime rates are lower than the richest blacks.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by Timon3 on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @12:45PM (#35889893)
Mind sharing the statistics you got this from?
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by CapstanRoller on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @01:06PM (#35890203)
He got them from 4chan.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by throwawayacc5 on Thursday May 11, 2023 @01:28AM (#35897964)
He's not wrong though, and you know it deep inside. That's why it bothers you.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by CapstanRoller on Thursday May 11, 2023 @02:01PM (#35905847)
Go back to 4chan, please.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by throwawayacc5 on Thursday May 11, 2023 @04:05PM (#35907689)
Cope.
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Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by dang on Friday May 12, 2023 @04:18PM (#35921776)
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Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by dang on Friday May 12, 2023 @04:17PM (#35921768)
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Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by dumbotron on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @03:02AM (#35884533)
I'm surprised mass shooters all love ARs. A cheap plastic 9mm pistol with hollowpoint rounds is plenty deadly.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by bombcar on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @10:20AM (#35887757)
School shooters (let's be precise, as that is what people are talking about when talking about mass shootings, not gang violence or other stuff) want to look cool, and ARs are cool looking and everyone markets them up on both sides.

Which is why my simple modification to solve it all is mandate that all firearms be hot pink with a hello kitty logo.