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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by geuis on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:17AM (#35598414)
So weird no one else put this in standard American times, considering its an American launch.

  6am PST West coast
  7am Mountain time
  8am Central time
  9am Eastern standard time
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by thombat on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:35AM (#35598516)
But it already has CT, and I guess a lot of US citizens know where they are relative to the other US time zones?
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by geuis on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:38AM (#35598543)
Yeah fair enough. I'm kinda getting concerned that my original comment is generating any discussion at all. Like, I just posted US-centric time zones. I'm not sure why this is a topic for argument or discussion.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by DrStartup on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:46AM (#35599359)
Maybe the judgement and blame part before the list of additional time zones?

“So weird that nobody” feels judge-y and blame-y to me, but that was probably not your intent.

Dunno

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by Narkov on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:23AM (#35598447)
Or perhaps a global time, such as UTC, given the global audience?
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by geuis on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:25AM (#35598462)
I'm just recognizing the facts of the planet we live in. Lots of interested parties are in the US, so it makes sense to also simply add US times. Especially considering its a US company (hopefully) launching from US soil.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by tulio_ribeiro on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:06AM (#35598755)
I’m so surprised that a country who still clings to the imperial system would have any clue about UTC, the time standard that the rest of the world uses.

The launch is scheduled to 1300 UTC, for us engineering folks.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by geuis on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:14AM (#35598817)
Its currently 6:10pm in Beijing. Its also 6:10pm everywhere else in China (https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/china).

Because that's a country that doesn't use the imperial system and still insists its the same time as the eastern capital no matter where else in the country people happen to be.

Lets also mention that China is almost the same width as the US, probably larger to be fair.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by ricardobeat on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:38AM (#35599296)
It probably pays off in efficiency.

I was gonna say it must be weird to see solar noon at 3pm, or live in one of the western provinces and have sunrise at 4:30pm / sunset at 9-10pm for part of the year, but that describes life in the Netherlands too.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by bombcar on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:31AM (#35598911)
UTC (Zulu) is universally used by airplane people. Most have at least heard of it, even if they don't easily do the math.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by Titan2189 on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:13AM (#35599167)
"airplane people" - technical term
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by pineaux on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @01:20AM (#35610250)
Bit like crab people

Plane people, Plane people, Fly like plane! Lie like people!

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by tssva on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:59AM (#35599077)
The US doesn't use the imperial system.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by ianai on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:11AM (#35598796)
Going back, I have a clear memory of big events with global viewership being typically advertised with multiple time zones at a time. It was almost a bit of a marketing gag even for financial firms to have a ton of clocks up with labels displaying many different time zones.

So yes, no reason to chose 1 time zone and force readers to do mental math. Just list “London: , Tokyo: , Sydney: , LA: , NYC: , Lagos: , Singapore: , Mumbai: “ etc.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by mlatu on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:45AM (#35598999)
at least they could have used good old internet time.

@490

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by Narkov on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:52PM (#35608207)
> I'm just recognizing the facts of the planet we live in.

I think you will find, with absolutely no supporting evidence to back this up, that there will be more people outside of the US watching than from the US.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by TinkersW on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:12AM (#35598804)
We don't really use UTC in the US, so for most Americans it wouldn't actually tell them much of anything. EST & PST are the most common.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by baq on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:32AM (#35598919)
Nobody elsewhere does either but everyone knows their offset, or at least should around here... this is clearly an event of worldwide importance, so adding a few more timestamps wouldn't hurt
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by macintux on Monday April 17, 2023 @08:41AM (#35599822)
> EST & PST are the most common.

Which is maddening because most of the year it’s EDT & PDT but people still reference them wrong, even in marketing and corporate communications where they really should know better.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by fnordpiglet on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:39AM (#35599301)
Come on folks. It’s time to start using star dates.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by swarnie on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:26AM (#35598469)
96% of the world isn't US-American.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by geuis on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:29AM (#35598486)
Yep, you are correct.

But 100% of the launch is an American company out of American territory. And the majority of the users of Hacker News are also based in the US.

So for this audience, considering the other facts, I don't see why people are having a problem with an extra comment that simply posts the relevant launch times in terms easier to understand at a glance for an American audience.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by geuis on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:42AM (#35598575)
@ta1243 its 2:40am PST. Sorry I can't reply to you directly, apparently HN has some comment thread depth limits. (Who knew?) Yeah sorry I forgot to include all of the time zones covering the entire country and its possessions.

Post edit. I'm not sure what you want. All I did was post the 4 standard American time zones that affect most of the somewhat 330 million Americans living in the continental part of the country.

Why is the original timezone post generating any conversation at all? This is insane.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by riffic on Monday April 17, 2023 @12:15PM (#35602885)
PDT lol
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by ta1243 on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:37AM (#35598535)
Yet you decide to ignore multiple American timezones including Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Alaska, Samoa, Guam and Wake Island
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by swarnie on Monday April 17, 2023 @05:40AM (#35598559)
Do you not see this as a human achievement or do you need to segment it off with ethno-centric logic? Is so we seem to have lost the "Giant leap for mankind" within a generation or two.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by dkdbejwi383 on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:24AM (#35599211)
> And the majority of the users of Hacker News are also based in the US.

Is this really the case?

Even if it’s true, I wouldn’t say this is anything to be proud of or something to uphold. Why not use international standards to make the place more welcoming the the majority of the world?

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by ricardobeat on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:40AM (#35599316)
https://toolhub.tech/blog/Demographics-of-Hacker-News/

The USA accounts for 41% of users according to this site.

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by helli8390 on Monday April 17, 2023 @08:15AM (#35599612)
> Why not use international standards to make the place more welcoming the the majority of the world?

How do you think the US or China became leading world superpowers? By welcoming every standard and culture of the world?

Oh wait, that is Europe. And look what happened to them. (Spoiler: they are not number 1 any more)

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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by dkdbejwi383 on Monday April 17, 2023 @09:06AM (#35600048)
Huh?
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by Viker on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:11AM (#35598800)
Then 96% of the world should just humbly watch and do as told, unless they want to build their own mars rocket ?
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by downvotetruth on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:36AM (#35598943)
9 AM EDT = 8 AM EST
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by jaystraw on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:57AM (#35599063)
Alaskan here, where's AKST? :-D
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by self_awareness on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:28AM (#35599230)
Europe/Warsaw: 15:00 CEST (UTC+2)
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by explaininjs on Monday April 17, 2023 @08:33AM (#35599744)
No way I’m the first pedant on HN to comment PST should be PDT (same for EST). The numbers are correct though.
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by riffic on Monday April 17, 2023 @08:56AM (#35599945)
daylight time would be correct for this time of year
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by victor96 on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:41AM (#35601454)
Early start for anyone on the west coast
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Re:Orbital Test Launch of Starship in ~4 hours by aksss on Monday April 17, 2023 @12:12PM (#35602842)
Missing two other American time zones, Alaska and Hawaii.
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