Which ones are those again?

The dumb ones so that smart kids can actually learn.

Those who can't keep up with the rest. The only alternative is to hold everybody back to the level of the dimwits, and that's atrocious.

Who gets to decide that?

Test scores?

Test scores aren't decision making agents. Try again.

You're being intentionally obtuse. If you have the capacity to have an accelerated program for 1,000 students in a district, then you rank by test scores and bring in the top 1,000.

My intentions aren't epistomologically accessible to you.

What parents are doing is laundering their agency through a testing regime. It's part of the process of the absolution of responsibility of consequence.

As an aside, it's clear that parents aren't mature enough to be approached socratically. I regret their schools taught them to read and write. They clearly don't want to learn.

No, your intentions are very clear (and naive), you're just wrong.

Since we're clearly able to read each other's intentions, yours are to disrupt the legitimate line of questioning with a temper tantrum. I hope you see where assuming people's intentions ends up. I know you can do better than that.

You broke the site guidelines badly here. We ban accounts that do that, regardless of how provocative other comments were or you feel they were.

Fortunately it doesn't look like you've been making a habit of this (at least not from a quick look at the account's recent posts in other threads), so this should be easy to fix. If you'd review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to using HN as intended, we'd appreciate it.

Please don't break the site guidelines with personal attacks or name-calling.

You've done this in other threads too, unfortunately (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35469483 was particularly bad). We have to ban accounts that post like this, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on, we'd appreciate it.

> It's part of the process of the absolution of responsibility of consequence

My intentions aren't epistemologically accessible to you.

> As an aside, it's clear that parent commenters aren't mature enough to be approached socratically. I regret their schools taught them to read and write. They clearly don't want to learn

You have a licensing clause on your comments. I regret that your school didn't bully you enough to realize you shouldn't be an ideologically grotesque nerd.

Feel free to respond once you've decided we're done with ad-homs and self defeating arguments.

> I regret that your school didn't bully you enough to realize you shouldn't be an ideologically grotesque nerd.

You can bully me here. Let's see what you got.

Ok based, but I still disagree and recant nothing. I don't know, my dad will beat up your dad?

You broke the site guidelines badly with this post. We ban accounts that do this. Your account has been doing things like this repeatedly. Can you please stick to the rules from now on?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Personal attacks are not allowed here. Your comment would be fine without the first bit.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Kids who are disruptive/discipline problems. Teachers should not be removing slow students who do not cause issues in the classroom. Teachers should remove disruptive students. Disruptive students lose their learning pass, and all would benefit from such a situation.

Teachers becoming disciplinarians is where they become authoritarian, exploitive arbiters of ones future earning potential.

I'd encourage you to think critically about the design and implementation of such a system, the incentives it would generate and the moral hazards of enacting it. It's not like labeling kids as "unworthy of learning" could be abused.

Could you please not take HN threads further into flamewar? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

A callous way to put it, but it could also be stated that setting people up for modest success is a much kinder position than setting them up for exceptional failure.

>Some students need to be left behind

Definitely. Let's start stack ranking[0] in kindergarten and expel (and make that stick nationwide!) the bottom 10% every year.[1]

By the time students get to high school, we'll have best schools in the world!

Those who have been expelled had already reached their intellectual peak, especially those in primary school. amirite? /s

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitality_curve

[1] Please use this is a "clear indicator of intent to parody" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.