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Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by FpUser on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:49PM (#35559303)
New programmers who did not have chance to learn "properly" might not be able of "intervening".
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by manojlds on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:51PM (#35559322)
That's probably what every generation of "older" programmers said - new programmers who did not do assembly will never be able to code etc.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by WalterBright on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:56PM (#35559402)
> new programmers who did not do assembly will never be able to code etc

I see the results from programmers who never learned assembly.

Just like repairing and building cars from the ground up makes me a better driver. For example, the clutch in my car lasts a lot longer than it does for other drivers.

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by nolok on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:01PM (#35559480)
Then again, there is no clutch in an EV
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by WalterBright on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:15PM (#35560676)
I'm sure batteries and electric motors have their own quirks. For example, battery performance is dependent on temperature.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by manojlds on Thursday April 13, 2023 @05:15PM (#35562150)
You are arguing against your point. Everything has its own quirks and no one has it easy or tough.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by wiseowise on Thursday April 13, 2023 @05:22PM (#35562233)
It doesn’t have it because it doesn’t need it, not because it somehow built abstraction around it. That’s not the case with modern computers, anything is built on top of everything.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by FpUser on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:57PM (#35559424)
1) false equivalence.

2) I am an old fart and had never said anything even remotely approaching "who did not do assembly will never be able to code". One can learn programming using any language. However some experience with the languages of multiple level definitely does not hurt.

In order to evaluate generated code you have to know how to program.

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by classified on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:54PM (#35560320)
If you look at the mountains of crap that have been written in JS, for instance, those old programmers have been proven right.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by Bishonen88 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:54PM (#35559366)
Having no knowledge about assembly doesn’t stop me intervening with my JavaScript apps :)

Intervening can be done via LLM in some way I reckon

Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by tinkertamper on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:59PM (#35559447)
That’s not really a fair comparison here — A more fitting metaphor would be whether or not you could intervene on assembly code not knowing assembly.
Re:Amazon CodeWhisperer, Free for Individual Use, Is Now Gen... by FpUser on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:00PM (#35559471)
Who said you need to know assembly.

>"Intervening can be done via LLM in some way I reckon"

This inspires much confidence