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Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by cynicalsecurity on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @10:40AM (#35261754)
Maybe if Yandex wasn't one of IT departments of FSB this would actually be worth checking.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by omgtehlion on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @10:50AM (#35261927)
Oh come on already...

Of course FSB has a backdoor to *data* collected by Yandex, but the code itself (as well as coders) have nothing to do with any three-letter-agency within Russia.

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by screamingninja on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:02AM (#35262117)
> the code itself (as well as coders) have nothing to do with any three-letter-agency within Russia.

citation needed

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by dna_polymerase on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:07AM (#35262188)
Let's keep in mind, the only companies that were ever found to collude with three-letter agencies were the big players in the US. But for some reason, Yandex needs to prove something here…
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by eddsh1994 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:17PM (#35263365)
Why don't you read the code? The amount of people commenting on this, if there was something to hide they'd have probably caught it already and if not surely by next week.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by ivan_gammel on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @10:50AM (#35261932)
Maybe this is exactly the reason why it’s worth checking? They open-sourced it.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by Aldipower on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:04AM (#35262152)
Yeah, like Apache Mesos is running the NSA data center in Utah. One of the biggest in the world.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by mdaniel on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:57AM (#35263063)
Do you happen to have any link where I can read more about this?
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by bertil on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @10:56AM (#35262021)
I’m all for holding companies that have supported dangerous regimes to account. However, when it comes to data management, totalitarian regimes rarely indicate inadequate implementation. IBM’s role in Germany in the 40s was horrific, but it proved their ideas of tabulations and files were promising. Just like with rocketry, there were many valuable things to learn that defined the rest of the XXth century.

The FSB likely has a lot of crimes to atone for. Still, suppose one of their specialists publishes something on data management or how to manage hundreds of sock-puppet social media accounts. In that case, I’d be tempted to listen and learn from a likely expert—unless you suspect that they think this article is not sincere and meant as a distraction from actual good practices.

Similarly, the CIA has done very problematic things, but the people who worked in the disguise department have a creative take on changing your appearance. I’m unsure when I would have to do that, but I’m always curious about how data is stored efficiently. And yes, like the FSB, the NSA has opinions about that, and those are typically well-informed.

Was their practice constitutional? Seemingly not, IANAL. But do they have good insights into caching video files at scale? Definitely.

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by medo-bear on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:25AM (#35262502)
> IBM’s role in Germany in the 40s was horrific, but it proved their ideas of tabulations and files were promising

source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by throwaw12 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:17AM (#35262342)
brainwashing at its peak.

When USA does things, it is for the good of society, democracy. When Russia does things, it is hurting people, bad for society.

Come on buddy, time to wake up and understand every country does things for its own good and whatever your media is telling about Russia is bad, it is because they're applying 3 letter agency brainwashing methods on to you.

Code is open source if you read code you will not get under Russian propoganda.

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by garbagecoder on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:24AM (#35262469)
nice whataboutism.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by medo-bear on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:27AM (#35262522)
nice head in the sand
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by garbagecoder on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:57AM (#35263055)
That's a hilarious response from a Russia apologist. You think telling other people they're naive about the CIA means you can ignore all the bad stuff about Russia but that's not how the world works and you are either paid to have say this or are doing it for free and I'm not sure which is worse.

I try not to put myself in the hands of any spy agency.

"Other team bad so my team good" is reasoning barely worthy of the human mind.

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by medo-bear on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @01:30PM (#35264333)
there is no need to slander me. im definitely not paid by anyone to give my opinions

imperialism is imperialism. it should be denounced

if you dont think there is a US imperialist element involved in Ukraine you need to inform yourself a bit more. you can start with reading about North Stream 2

before the war in Ukraine i used to think that, in comparison the US, at least Russia bombs countries without calling it freedom [1]. When Russia started its "special operation" against Ukraine i now think that at best Putin is trolling the US, and at worst he is trying to be the US

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by dang on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:29PM (#35281554)
Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by dang on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:28PM (#35281552)
Hey, could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

Also, it looks like you've been using HN primarily for political/national/ideological battle, and that's another (distinct) line at which we ban accounts—regardless of what you're battling for or against. Past explanations here: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme....

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

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Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by garbagecoder on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:21PM (#35263418)
look at all of these throw away accounts making bad arguments.

Yes, we look at everyone's record. Both records.

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by throwaw12 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:12PM (#35263282)
this discussion will not add any value to the tech community of HN. My main concern of parent comment is, it is adding politics to the discussion of recently open sourced tech piece, instead of focusing on its capabilities, trade-offs and shortcomings and using it as a chance to learn constraints of another systems (in this case Yandex)

it's always whataboutism when it doesn't fit the narrative, why haven't you asked same question to the parent comment when they tried to politicise technical product discussion?

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by kofejnik on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:12PM (#35263296)
Russia kidnaps kids. Fuck Russia.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by bigbillheck on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @01:37PM (#35264438)
Got some news for you, buddy.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by Nginx487 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @10:10AM (#35275081)
Would you remind when US committed genocide, mass execution of POWs, execution and torture of civilians, mass rape of women and children, and absolutely widespread looting in occupied towns? I'm waiting.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by jones6ofMont on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:29AM (#35262568)
Why? Is FSB worst than say Google+MS+Amazon on CIA books? The mess, death and mayhem created by CIA are well documented and some worse than FSB (remember FSB is NOT KGB because Russia now is a democratic country and not a communist USSR). BTW, CIA also running rendition program similar to what Jack Bauer going through except the bad guys are him after all in real life. I am sure vast majority of HN users had their privacy severely violated by CIA+FBI way more than FSB. Heck CIA even backdoor consumer chipser some years back. Based on what Snowden disclosed, I am not surprise if today situation are even worse. I would take FSB bads over CIA+FBI misdeeds ANY day. Definitely will be checking out Yandex open source contribution. I care codes more than whatever political afflictions of coders have.
Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by stef25 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:59AM (#35263091)
> remember FSB is NOT KGB because Russia now is a democratic country and not a communist USSR

Secret services in a democratic country being better / worse than their communist counterparts aside, "democracy" is a bit of stretch when describing Russia.

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by Idiot_in_Vain on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:02PM (#35263127)
Russia now is a democratic country???

Only a complete idiot would think that.

Re:Yandex open-sources its exabyte-scale big data platform by newaccount2023 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:12PM (#35263288)
not like the US, where you can vote for one pro-establishment candidate....or the other!