medo-bear
infringing on copyleft is like stealing from the poor
its the difference between robin hood and government corruption
you accused me of being a tankie in support of putin or russia or whatever. my influence on world events is completely insignificant so even if i hold these positions you shouldnt really waste this much time on me
however what you fail to realize is that the ukranian government has allowed itself to be THE useful idiot for US interests with extremely deadly consequences. this is why i do not support the Ukranian government and its war effort. moreover i am extremely against their conscription drive. i find it disgusting
i really am morally against putins war on ukraine. i also dont like putin as a politician. but again this is inconsequential. however what i can also say about it is that it was completely predictable and expected.
again i am completely convinced that the US is using ukranians as cannon fodder for its own interests. in fact i even suspect that alot of western politicians are privately enjoying the fact that two biggest slavic nations in europe are killing eachother
you can call things i point out whataboutism, i see them as examples of prevailing hypocricy. it is important to ask these questions because the US and its propaganda arm always talk about rules based order international law etc while carring for none of that when it comes to its own interests. and this war is 100% between US and Russia with the Ukranian government acting as useful idiot for the US and ukranian prople caught in the middle of everything. it is very sad
finally ... i find it quite curious that there are few of you determined to keep this exchange going with me and you are all using quite the same terminology and manner of communicating. are you the same person?
> Says medo-bear, which supports Russia and their imperialist affairs
not supports but explains. like dont pat a dog from above or else it might bite you. or dont try to bring a sworn enemy to the doorstep of your more powerful neighbour or else it might invade you
> I support the US and NATO when they deserve my support.
that is the difference between you and me. i would never support any imperialist group: russia/usa/nato/israel including their proxies like the current government of ukraine
but tbh at the rate you are going you will start dreaming about MEDO-BEAR
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`---`'explains' is the word you are looking for, which is what you asked for
> it is not evidence
evidence of what?
> You instead use it as a "it's fine because the West did it before".
actually mainly im saying that this is all expected as it is part of the rules of the game set by the West
anyway lets be honnest, you obviously support the US and NATO, and you are simply having a tantrum because someone has an opposite view. what else is the point of this exchange? your guys do so much crap to the world and answer to no one. israel (your side) killed 4x more civilians in a year than russia in 3 years. your lads litteraly think it is their god given right to rule the world. true, i think they are a bigger threat to world peace than Russia, but i would never say that Russia is 'right' or that i support Russian imperialism, but I do think that right now maybe they are less wrong in some sense. if Ukraine had a true independence movement, one that wasnt a lackey for another world power (for example like viet cong, plo, yugoslav partizans, polish resistance) I would support Ukraine completely. unfortunately it does not
as for africa, what on earth do you think uk france and US do there? also ukraine seems to be arming islamists there. what do you think about that?
Everyone needs a vent, but you called me out personally whilst i dont care to remember who you are.
Funny enough seeing my previous engagements it is always the same people arguing the US story, pretending to be Ukranians
Try hypocrisy
> nothing to do with the topic at hand
im saying that all imperialist powers are essentially the same and equally bad. including the us (the only country to date to have used nuclear weapons). if you want something closer to the point at hand see Iran Air Flight 655
> Russia was not provoked in any sense
as an imperialist power it was provoked in every sense. the US knew they were provoking russia. maybe they thought russia wouldnt go to war. but its obvious they were provoked
ive also seen what western interefernce looks like when the west wants there to be a war. for example compare this to boris johnson torpedoing the peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine in 2022
On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karadžić for the Bosnian Serbs and Mate Boban for the Bosnian Croats. The plan had assigned each of the 109 municipalities to be divided amongst the three ethnic sides. The allocation of the municipalities was mostly based off the results of the 1991 population census that was completed a year before the signing of the agreement. The agreement had stipulated that the Bosniak and Serb cantons would each have covered 44% of the country's territory, with the Croat canton covering the remaining 12%.[3]
On 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any division of Bosnia. What was said and by whom remains unclear. Zimmermann denied that he told Izetbegović that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. What is indisputable is that on the same day, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.[4][5]
Ukranians should take note that the Bosniak side came out even worse after that war, while the Serbian side today controls half of the country in a defacto almost independent state