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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by Traubenfuchs on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:32AM (#35053771)
> What a crazy move.

Not at all! Done right, we could have ended up in a sci-fi future strapped to our VR headsets all day long. But the real life, physical technology is just not here yet (maybe it's impossible and never will be), the software they invented for their lacking headsets is disgustingly bad (Horizon Worlds) and there is no nameworthy content.

I assume his advisors and tech leads all pulled the wool over his eyes and sold him their lofty dreams as tangible reality.

Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by rob74 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:40AM (#35053823)
> Done right, we could have ended up in a sci-fi future strapped to our VR headsets all day long

When I read this phrase, the spaceship from Wall-E comes to mind. But in reality, it would probably look a little bit more dystopian than what Pixar imagined...

Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by Traubenfuchs on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:46AM (#35053857)
Most people would say they HATE this future, but most people would LOVE this future. As passive infotainment consumers, stereotypical scroolers, they are already glued to TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, reddit and whatever other digital dopamine dispenser and skinner box there. Significantly improve on that with pleasant, increased or even full immersion and you got the next big thing.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by red-iron-pine on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:23AM (#35055640)
...they say, posting on HN, a slightly watered down dopamine dispenser brought to you by the people that made Reddit happen.

I still think VR might be a hard sell for most people. As dumb as large groups of people may be, it's clear that people are ditching FB and slowly backing away from a lot of social media. It's tricking out that it's not always a great thing, and there is legit buy-in from huge chunks of the Left and Right to restrict what social media does.

Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by yamtaddle on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @10:13AM (#35056193)
All of this stuff is locked behind AR/VR glasses that are close enough in size, shape, and weight to normal sunglasses. If someone manages to build that, it'll be the biggest thing to hit computing since the smartphone. If not, it's all going nowhere.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by Traubenfuchs on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @10:24AM (#35056331)
> ...they say, posting on HN, a slightly watered down dopamine dispenser brought to you by the people that made Reddit happen.

I by no means wanted to exclude myself from the groups I so derogatively named. Hacker News is pure infotainment to me. The quality is above reddit though, but that's not a high bar.

> it's clear that people are ditching FB and slowly backing away from a lot of social media

Are they? To me it looks like TikTok addiction and stupidity is continuously peaking.

Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by megaman8 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @12:18PM (#35058053)
I'd say HN quality is way way better than Reddit, entirely due to the audience. Reddit is very much anti-knowledge, anti-solution, anti-reason whereas HN features intelligent discussions, often supported by facts.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by HDThoreaun on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @12:00PM (#35057725)
It's really not clear that people are ditching FB. They showed 20% more ads last quarter than in the quarter the year before.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by s1artibartfast on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:38AM (#35055807)
You forgot to add miserable and depressed to your list
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by rsynnott on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @06:46AM (#35054281)
I mean, the Wall-E one already looked _extremely_ dystopian.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by sidpatil on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @06:51AM (#35054308)
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by yamtaddle on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @10:11AM (#35056169)
The video for "Do the Evolution" by Pearl Jam.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by robertlagrant on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:39AM (#35053819)
From what I understand, he would like to be remembered similarly to Steve Jobs, as an inventor of the future. I think this was his way of doing that.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by peanuty1 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:48AM (#35053864)
People loved Steve Jobs though whereas people hate Mark.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by Traubenfuchs on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:56AM (#35053931)
He failed to produce his own brand. The only thing that comes to mind when anyone thinks about Mark is "Facebook scandals", "looks, moves and talks like a reptiloid/robot" and "the mataverse that no one wanted failure (no legs!)". I bet he wishes he would have been what Elon Musk was, someone with pretty much his own cult. Elon Musk still has his cult followers and online knights despite his increasingly erratic behavior and general unpleasantness.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by djmips on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:05AM (#35055444)
Not everyone loves Steve Jobs. Lots of people don't. I don't.

I do hate that Zuck ruined the word meta for everyone.

Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by red-iron-pine on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:25AM (#35055660)
Steve Jobs was a misanthropic douche who routinely abused his own staff and screwed over many of those around him, including, famously, Woz.

He just had really, really good marketing, and products that landed at just the right time.

Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by midoridensha on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @08:25PM (#35063953)
Your characterization of him is correct, but he didn't accomplish what he did through sheer luck and marketing; he also had a really good sense of what (average) consumers wanted in a technology product, which his competitors seemed to mostly lack.
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by robertlagrant on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @05:26AM (#35067318)
Steve Jobs "landing products at just the right time" is a synonym for "was a wildly successful businessman".
Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by bitL on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @04:48PM (#35061738)
The only thing that is vastly better in VR than in reality are horror games. While one can laugh on how silly/unfrightening the movie nightmare on the Elm street is, a proper VR jump scare can easily lead to a heart attack when following some quiet period of gameplay. Not sure if this was the intended effect as it would likely reduce the number of consumers once for all.