I had completely forgotten it was even listed there. Six months and one inquiry. I promptly deleted the listing.

Glad to be done with AirBNB, but it really helped out at a bad time.

When COVID-19 travel bans proliferated in early 2020, AirBnB proactively refunded my money for a reservation that was nominally no longer cancellable.

VRBO told me to reach out to the host, which turned out to be this apartment rental agency that would ghost my emails for a few days, then offer future credit, then told me to get in line as they have many customers, and eventually processed the refund 3 months or so down the road.

Needless to say, I no longer use VRBO.

It is "solved" in usa airbnb too , infact german one seems to have more fees/line items, not less.

example: https://imgur.com/a/FJaKHvS

https://imgur.com/a/1JJLpI0

can someone make a PSA to all the people making this "hosts pulling shit" comment on every single airbnb thread.

And yes you can also filter by total price.

On airbnb.com.au, the full cost is the default view, and you can change the pricing to USD very easily in the bottom floating footer.

https://imgur.com/a/1JJLpI0

Why do you have such spl expectation for just airbnb?

"You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have tried everything else.” -- Winston Churchill

[1] https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer...

I use it to search in the US as it’s the only way to know all in cost, which the US version always tries to obfuscate

I went to Airbnb.com just now, and got this banner: https://i.imgur.com/zasryfr.png

So it's a new thing.

The reason it makes more sense to do it for hotels is that many cities have 15+% or $$/night taxes. The highest rate is 20%.

https://hvs.com/article/8911-2020-HVS-Lodging-Tax-Report-USA

So, the PSA is “don’t listen to this bozo, it’s still shit”.

Guess how long the list is when I check out of a hotel:

1. Press the check out button on the app and leave

2. There is no number #2

That’s hard/impossible to find in hotels.

The stand alone house can have a yard or a distance to the next house.

Sometimes you can find AirBnb right near a place you need to be in the next morning whereas a hotel might need to be a long ways away and travel between the locations can be problematic.

It will include listings that are up to about €3/night more expensive than your filter setting, but listings that would qualify just on base price but not on total price are filtered out as you would expect.

Same happens with cell phones here. You sign up for a price and the first bill has several fees added making it quite a bit more expensive.

I wish there was a law in the US that mandated that the paid price is the advertised price.

Wow. Somehow, that seems shadier than just showing a misleading price then piling on fees for everyone.

To me it just shows that sometimes strict regulation is the right thing to avoid the tragedy of commons.

Isn't Biden literally asking for congress to make a law to that effect? (Which is a really smart move on his part tbh)

1) They artificially lower the listed price per night, causing the home to show up in more searches. This could easily be fixed by Airbnb.

2) It's used as a way to incentivize longer stays. This motivation probably won't go away. Many Airbnbs are empty during the weekdays.

3) It's a way for hosts (and Airbnb) to skirt taxes. This is the real reason Airbnb doesn't want to punish the practice.

Many municipalities in the U.S. tax Airbnbs as a percentage of their nightly rate, and cleaning fees aren't included in that calculation. If those savings are passed onto the guest, they would theoretically lower the effective cost per night.

Why would shifting payment from nightly cost to cleaning fee have an effect on the hosts' tax liability? If they actually pay someone that much to clean the place, they get to deduct it from their business income either way. What you call it doesn't matter.

I would be curious if Airbnb takes a cut of the cleaning fees, or only the nightly rate. I could see how that might differ, and if so that it would incentivize hosts to shift toward the cleaning fees.

And for many hosts, the main costs are the checking in/out/cleaning/laundry. So if they could charge $100 check in fee, plus $20/night, they would.