To be fair, on the US site it's an "Early Access" feature that is in no way the default.

On airbnb.com.au, the full cost is the default view, and you can change the pricing to USD very easily in the bottom floating footer.

Does the US version show the total price while browsing search results or only when checking out?

yes while searching also

https://imgur.com/a/1JJLpI0

But it's not really the "total price". It doesn't include taxes.

which site includes taxes though? I don't see it on amazon.com, even physical stores don't have taxes included.

Why do you have such spl expectation for just airbnb?

Airlines are required to do it [1], it's time to force lodging to do it with legislation. These sites will not do it otherwise.

"You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have tried everything else.” -- Winston Churchill

[1] https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer...

Yes because AirBnb hosts will surely follow the law and local ordinances this time…

Your recourse is against Airbnb proper if they do not abide by federal statute or FTC rules. Hosts will have no choice in the matter.

How has that recourse worked on the local and state levels so far?

No, because they’re not the federal government?

the airbnb.com.au version does because AU law requires it.

I use it to search in the US as it’s the only way to know all in cost, which the US version always tries to obfuscate

No, this is an early access thing that they have been rolling out slowly.

I went to Airbnb.com just now, and got this banner: https://i.imgur.com/zasryfr.png

So it's a new thing.

It includes the cleaning fee and Airbnb service fee, but inexplicably, excludes taxes.

nothing in USA includes taxes in the list price, except airlines.

In general, hotel and rental car sites will let you display whether they do so by default or not.

I would think it matters more with hotels/Airbnbs than many other goods because hotel taxes can vary a lot when you cross city lines

FWIW, before Amazon started collecting taxes on 3rd party seller sales you could sort by total including tax when listing all seller options of a product.

The reason it makes more sense to do it for hotels is that many cities have 15+% or $$/night taxes. The highest rate is 20%.

https://hvs.com/article/8911-2020-HVS-Lodging-Tax-Report-USA

Just tried booking in the AirBnB app. The price shown on the map is the bullshit price, not the total including fees divided by the number of nights.

So, the PSA is “don’t listen to this bozo, it’s still shit”.

Can I filter by: “don’t have to deal with a long list of shit the host expects me to do before I leave?”

Guess how long the list is when I check out of a hotel:

1. Press the check out button on the app and leave

2. There is no number #2

sure you can just book hotels if you expect that experience. I don't understand 'airbnb should exactly be like a hotel' expectation.

It shouldn’t be worse

why not ?

Airbnb is a different thing; it will be better in some ways and worse in others.

How is AirBnb in anyway better?

I frequently (multiple times per year) rent AirBnBs for the full kitchen and many bedrooms for group meetings where we live, work, and cook meals together.

That’s hard/impossible to find in hotels.

It’s a suite? Usually expensive in a hotel, but definitely exists.

I've never seen an 8 bedroom 6+ bathroom suite with a full kitchen. I've only looked in a half-dozen cities or so where I've wanted to hold these team events, but I've never seen one.

Often in AirBnB you can find a stand alone house. In a hotel generally you have a hallway with rooms, one of those rooms is yours, and all the other rooms belong to other people.

The stand alone house can have a yard or a distance to the next house.

Sometimes you can find AirBnb right near a place you need to be in the next morning whereas a hotel might need to be a long ways away and travel between the locations can be problematic.

airbnbs are cheaper if you don't mind sharing the bathroom with other guests/host and cook all your meals in host's kitchen. This has saved me a ton of money traveling over the years.

I can rent a weekend in a tiny cabin on a working farm and drink the milk I milked myself while learning how to milk a cow.

In recent years, I don't even bother using an app or going to the front desk. Assuming I've stayed for my entire reservation, I just leave. Never had a problem so far!

Soon after I click the button, my receipt gets emailed. Before late last year, I was traveling more for work than personal.