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Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by interestica on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @03:34PM (#34509905)
Investigations have some weird bits. I've always wondered if there's a certain title for the person who prepares the chickens for the 'chicken gun' in airplane testing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_gun

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by RobRivera on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @03:39PM (#34509975)
Operational Testing Lead Quality Assurance Tester El Pollo Hermano
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by chanandler_bong on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @03:47PM (#34510095)
Mr. Fring would like to see you in his office. Now.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by TylerE on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @03:47PM (#34510098)
Less fun than Operational Testing Lead Quality Assurance Tester Los Pollo Hermanos
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by duxup on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @05:46PM (#34511702)
Excuse me sir, it is:

SENIOR OTL-QA-TEPH

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by vidanay on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @07:27PM (#34512647)
Sounds like a Mayan diety.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by selimthegrim on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:07PM (#34512963)
Chac Mool was out on other business along with Benedict Arnold.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by noisy_boy on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:08AM (#34518385)
Or a Jedi master.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by zitterbewegung on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @04:14PM (#34510498)
Bird Hit QA engineer
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by DavidNielsen on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:28AM (#34518614)
Bird Bash QA engineering.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by wyager on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @04:27PM (#34510694)
I got to take a tour of SWRI when I was younger, and they have one of these chicken guns in one of their testing facilities. They also have a locker full of machine guns for testing bullet resistance of vehicles etc.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by ajsnigrutin on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @04:33PM (#34510761)
After the joke fiasco, and since it's a government job, i'm sure there is someone employed there to thaw them first :D
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by interestica on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @05:12PM (#34511283)
What joke? was it related to https://cdc.gov/chikungunya
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by Daneel_ on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @05:53PM (#34511788)
I believe they're talking about this one: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/catapoultry/
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by D-Coder on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:38PM (#34512228)
Excellent, thank you!

Interesting that in at least one situation, the Air Force really did use frozen chickens to be extra-sure of the canopy durability.

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by lathiat on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:44PM (#34513724)
An iconic Mythbusters episode also :) They made an air cannon to fire frozen chickens into a plane.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by ajsnigrutin on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @06:02PM (#34525395)
Yep, this one... "thaw it first" :))
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by themodelplumber on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @05:49PM (#34511747)
ChatGPT's answer: "Bird-strike Technician"

"This person is responsible for preparing the birds that are used in bird-strike testing. This process typically involves obtaining, handling, and preparing the birds for testing, which can include things like plucking feathers and filling the birds with a material to simulate blood. They also make sure that the birds are stored and transported in a humane and ethical manner."

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by mwint on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:27PM (#34512137)
I love how this reads completely differently after the final sentence implies the birds are still alive.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by themodelplumber on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:40PM (#34512245)
Yep. There is a lot of opportunity for chatGPT in the humor space, I think.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by cm2187 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:33PM (#34512182)
To be honest being swallowed into a jet engine is as quick of a death as you can get
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by krisoft on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:59PM (#34512412)
Sometimes. Probably most of the time. But not always.

Petty Officer JD Bridges on a US Navy aircraft carrier got sucked into the intake of a fighter jet. Somehow his body got wedged in such a way that he did not go through the engine and managed to climb out a few seconds later.

Video of the incident in question, also an interview with him the next day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3Iz7b95-8&t=46s

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:27PM (#34513140)
As I recall, along with getting somewhat wedged, his helmet come off and was digested by the engine.

Which is one rapid method of equalising pressure at the intake and exhaust.

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by mixmastamyk on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:23PM (#34513589)
See, wear your helmet.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @02:28AM (#34515434)
Years ago I saw a picture on reddit of a similar event that did not end as well. I'm still scarred.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by lucozade on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @07:35AM (#34517505)
Well...a long time ago in a less PC age, I worked for a company that made fuel systems for jet engines. They had an outdoor test firing facility that was enclosed in a wall, maybe 6 feet high, intended to protect passersby.

The chap who ran the facility had a party piece. He'd put bird seed on top of the blast wall in front of the inlet. He waited for enough pigeons to start eating the seed. Then switched on the engine. There were a lot of feathers...

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by yellowapple on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @10:11PM (#34513921)
I created an OpenAI account solely so I could ask:

"Please give me a job description for a 'bird strike technician'."

----- BEGIN AI RESPONSE -----

A bird strike technician is responsible for preventing bird strikes on aircraft. This may include tasks such as:

- Identifying and assessing bird strike hazards at airports

- Developing and implementing bird management plans

- Monitoring and controlling bird populations near runways and taxiways

- Coordinating with airport and airline personnel to minimize bird strike risks

- Conducting inspections and maintenance of bird deterrence equipment

- Collecting and analyzing data on bird strikes and bird populations

- Training airport and airline personnel on bird strike prevention

- Staying up-to-date on industry regulations and best practices for bird strike prevention.

Overall, a bird strike technician is a professional that works with airport and airline staff to minimize the risk of bird strikes and to ensure the safe operation of aircraft.

----- END AI RESPONSE -----

"Can you rewrite that to resemble a post on a job board?"

----- BEGIN AI RESPONSE -----

Job Title: Bird Strike Technician

Company: XYZ Airport

Location: ABC City

We are seeking a highly motivated and experienced bird strike technician to join our team at XYZ Airport. In this role, you will be responsible for preventing bird strikes on aircraft by identifying and assessing bird strike hazards, developing and implementing bird management plans, and monitoring and controlling bird populations near runways and taxiways.

Key Responsibilities:

- Identifying and assessing bird strike hazards at airports

- Developing and implementing bird management plans

- Monitoring and controlling bird populations near runways and taxiways

- Coordinating with airport and airline personnel to minimize bird strike risks

- Conducting inspections and maintenance of bird deterrence equipment

- Collecting and analyzing data on bird strikes and bird populations

- Training airport and airline personnel on bird strike prevention

- Staying up-to-date on industry regulations and best practices for bird strike prevention

Qualifications:

- A minimum of 3 years of experience in bird strike prevention or a related field

- Knowledge of bird identification and behavior

- Strong organizational and communication skills

- Ability to work independently and as part of a team

- Must be able to work flexible hours, including early mornings, evenings, weekends, and holidays

We offer a competitive salary and benefits package, as well as opportunities for advancement within the company. If you are passionate about aviation safety and have a proven track record in bird strike prevention, we encourage you to apply today.

----- END AI RESPONSE -----

"You're the best. Thanks!"

----- BEGIN AI RESPONSE -----

You're welcome! I'm glad I could help. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

----- END AI RESPONSE -----

Not quite as fun as the stated ethical and humane transportation of birds about to be flung into test articles at high speeds, but still. What a time to be alive.

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by listenallyall on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @10:33PM (#34514071)
> I created an OpenAI account solely so I could ask

was it worth it? no.

Feel free to ask OpenAi whatever happens to amuse you. Please don't waste the rest of our time or attention or bandwidth on it. Nobody cares.

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by rishav_sharan on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:30PM (#34514430)
I at least got a chuckle out of it. So it's good enough for me
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by listenallyall on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @02:38AM (#34515503)
We're all glad you got an AI-induced "chuckle" in a thread that ponders the tragic death of 200 or so people. Cool stuff. Reddit is just over there to the left...
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by yellowapple on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:56PM (#34521702)
The HN guidelines are silent on the topic of AI-induced chuckles, yet are pretty explicit about comparisons to Reddit.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by pmarreck on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:19AM (#34514702)
I care, because I think OpenAI is still endlessly fascinating.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by listenallyall on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @02:43AM (#34515541)
Make your own account and go to town! No need to report back here though.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by balex on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:16PM (#34524929)
Thank you for posting your opinion. I, too, felt a need to let you know I'd rather you didn't.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by nicky0 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:21AM (#34514713)
I also appreciated the post, however, I did not appreciate yours.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by listenallyall on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @02:42AM (#34515537)
When AI submits content you don't appreciate, who will you complain to?
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by nicky0 on Friday January 27, 2023 @06:05AM (#34544755)
Meh. The poister cleary stated their post had come from an AI chat. It wasn't "AI generated content".
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by yellowapple on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:36AM (#34514806)
Thank you for your contribution to this discussion.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by listenallyall on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @02:41AM (#34515534)
My contribution was generated by an actual human, I guess that small detail is irrelevant at this point
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by yellowapple on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:58PM (#34521747)
I bet you're real fun at parties :)
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by userbinator on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:41AM (#34514839)
There is a great demand for a site full of AI-generated (unintentional) humour.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by listenallyall on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @02:38AM (#34515509)
Great... start that site, get it off of HN, and get rich in the process
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by thriftwy on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @05:58PM (#34511847)
This story has been going around the world for 50 years, and in different variations. According to some sources, the first time it appeared in a publication in USA in 1958, in the professional magazine "Meat and Game" of the California Associations of Game Producers (proven fact). The authenticity of the story, however, is questionable.

The FAA has at its disposal a unique device for measuring the strength of aircraft windshields, in case of a collision with birds at high speed (which happens not so rarely). This device is a powerful pneumatic cannon that shoots a chicken carcass into the windshield of an airplane at a speed approaching the cruising speed of a civilian aircraft (for jet aircraft, this is approx. 800 km/h, for piston engines in the 1950s this figure was probably smaller, maybe 400-500 km/h). According to the theory, if the glass can withstand a collision with a chicken at such a speed, then it should all the more withstand a real collision with a bird in flight.

A certain British engineering company developing high-speed trains borrowed this gun from the FAA to test the strength of the windshield of its a new high-speed train. The cannon was brought to England, installed at the landfill, loaded with a chicken carcass and fired at the prototype train.

The result exceeded all expectations: the chicken broke through the glass, broke the back of the driver's seat and got stuck in the back wall of the car. The British sent test results to FAA and asked them if they had done everything correctly and if the gun was hitting too hard. After studying the description and consequences of the test, the answer was sent by telegram immediately: "Next time, defrost the chicken."

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by Symbiote on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:59PM (#34512409)
I realise it's a joke, but I think a high speed train can probably withstand a frozen chicken at speed. They would need some defence against vandals throwing rocks, and weight isn't a problem.

This paper shows test impacts of a 1kg steel hemisphere, which damage the windscreen but don't shatter it.

http://koreascience.or.kr/article/JAKO201336447756524.page

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by wlonkly on Friday January 27, 2023 @11:36PM (#34555184)
Assume a hemispherical chicken...
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by KiwiJohnno on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:56PM (#34513392)
I read a story, "Maybe" true, probably not that once one of the testing organizations that did exactly these sorts of tests used to use frozen chickens from the supermarket. They would load the air-cannon the night before the test, then in the morning the chicken would be defrosted and they were ready to go.

However one morning the test results were rather more "messy" than they were expecting. They had no clue what had gone wrong, so they reviewed the high-speed footage to see the chicken leave the barrel along with a stray cat that had been chewing on it when the cannon fired...

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by jvm___ on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:00PM (#34511866)
An employee on the Canadian satire show This hour has 22 minutes
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by jdougan on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @01:46AM (#34515193)
I thought it was Royal Canadian Air Farce that did the chicken cannon?
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by fpoling on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:43PM (#34514498)
Those guns are not cheap. I once worked in a startup that wanted to put thermal cameras on commercial planes to measure volcanic ash concentrations. The cameras had to be behind a special glass that is transparent for thermal radiation. But as the glass size exceeded certain size, it required to certify against bird strikes. It turned out the cost of the certification was like 500K euros.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by easytiger on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @02:25AM (#34515414)
For engines presumably the major cost is dismantling and inspecting the engine under test
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by hasmanean on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @04:17PM (#34524305)
If that special glass is quartz, it should be stronger than regular glass.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by fpoling on Thursday January 26, 2023 @10:23AM (#34532777)
It was germanium glass if I remember correctly. It was very essential that all thermal radiation passed through it.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by reacweb on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @03:38AM (#34515887)
The person who bought the chickens told me that battery chickens were not suitable because the bones were too soft. Farm chickens were needed. The farmer never knew what the chickens were for.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by ChuckNorris89 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @08:18AM (#34517892)
Damn, we throw chickens in engines that are healthier than the ones most people eat.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by interestica on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:21AM (#34518522)
Maybe they can like...catch the exit material and fry it up.
Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by jszymborski on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:07PM (#34520930)
Obscure fact: Canada had a show called Royal Canadian Air Farce where, during their year-end special, they'd launch a "Chicken Cannon" at cut-outs of that years news makers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLJ5q3-XJtQ

Re:Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance o... by interestica on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @04:05PM (#34524181)
Colonel is an Air Force military rank. Just saying.