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Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by violini on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:17AM (#34258320)
If this is about racism, it makes me wonder how equitably such TOS-rules would be applied.

For example, if Linus Torvalds turned out to be a racist or sexist or homosexist or transexist, would his Linux repository (https://github.com/torvalds/linux) be hammered? Would he be removed from the Linux project somehow?

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by Semaphor on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:27AM (#34258387)
I just wanted to mention that the GH repo is just a mirror of the official one.
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by mellosouls on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:23AM (#34258355)
Hopefully - in the very unlikely case Torvalds or anybody else was deliberately uploading content of that sort.

This doesn't seem a remotely comparable case though (deliberate uploading of offensive content in the delisted repo vs - say - unwoke opinion/comments, or whatever the example of LT is supposed to evoke), if the reasons mooted in other comments are correct.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by jstanley on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:31AM (#34258408)
Do you not think a piece of software can be acceptable independently of whether or not its creator is racist?
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by mellosouls on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:33AM (#34258417)
Yes. But individual acceptance or use is very different from the ethical and legal obligations of major corporations.

And in this case, we aren't just talking about the creator, the allegations are about the actual content being hosted.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by badrabbit on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:04AM (#34258614)
Creator? Sure. The user account maintaining and updating it? No. Racism is just one thing, there is a ton of other undesirable beahviors like cp, fascism, swatting, participating or supporting acts of violence against strangers without provocation, participating in a spam/phish/malware campaign, backdooring code the list goes on. You are still free to host your own git repo on your own servers.

The dude was pretty racist, good work by GH employees: https://web.archive.org/web/20221013110023/https://github.co...

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by violini on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:33AM (#34258418)
Good point, I agree it's not comparable to what has been alleged in this case.

Come to think of it though, some of the words he's used in the past on the mailing list are probably considered "-ism" type offensive by some people today: "dumb", "retarded", etc.

Hopefully no cancellations incoming for these historical word-mishaps.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by pca006132 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:42AM (#34258908)
Really? "dumb" and "retarded" are considered "-ism" level offensive? What about retroactive abortion and the like? Is it so easy to trigger cancellation nowadays?
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by Beaver117 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @08:01AM (#34259039)
Yes, saying the latter word on reddit will get your account permanently banned site-wide...
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by tarotuser on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:00AM (#34260474)
That is indeed true. One of my alts there (like out of 25 at the moment, subject matter per acct) got permabanned sitewide for calling into question the business name and property ownership for a mental health nonprofit that has "ARC" in its name.

The "ARC" acronym stands for 'Association for Retarded Citizens', back when "retarded" was a clinical definition. It's now defunct. But those names still live on in property deeds and corporation names. https://thearc.org/about-us/history/ has the history of this name.

But Reddit.. egads, I have no clue what they're trying to accomplish. Maybe they're trying to clean themselves up from anything that even smells bad. If you want to speak about 'questionable topics', you have to use onomatopoeia to even talk about it (like, wee-tod-did , seggsual, unalive). I'm personally thinking of just abandoning reddit over their slow-boiling the frog, if you will.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by throwaway0x7E6 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:32AM (#34258411)
github linux repo is a mirror
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by smcl on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:10AM (#34258652)
I think that it would depend:

1. If Linus did a hard-right turn and was doing the right-wing news tour doing transphobic shit, MS and GitHub wouldn't bat an eye

2. If Linux kept a repo of anti-trans poetry or some shit on his GitHub, then yeah he'd quite possibly get booted off

This isn't about GitHub being against what they think "AUTOMATIC1111" as a person believes, this is just him doing shit on their platform that GH consider against their TOS.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by junklard on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:49AM (#34258957)
Now there's a thought. Maybe what finally resolves the gender imbalance in tech will be the reveal of Linus' secret stash of radfem verse.

A penguin draped in suffragette colours becomes the new mascot. Women across the globe join the open source movement in droves. JK Rowling writes a bestselling guide to Linux kernel development.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by ilyt on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:11AM (#34258660)
Or if one of thousands contributors happened to be?

We already had developer (of Drupal[1]) cancelled over their private BDSM kink (that isn't even illegal, which racism is), what stops some random moderator for deciding he's the saviour of the world and banning random repos just because a contributor might've been questionable?

* [1] https://www.theregister.com/2017/03/29/drupal_dev_banished/

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by pca006132 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:33AM (#34258825)
GitHub can ban your account if you violated their TOS, but I don't think they can/will ban the repo if one of the contributor might be questionable, you can fake commit history anyway. Perhaps they may ask the contributors to change git history if the contributor for a commit is really freaking them out for some reason? I have no idea.
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by weberer on Thursday January 05, 2023 @08:24AM (#34259230)
What country is racism illegal?
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by reportgunner on Thursday January 05, 2023 @08:57AM (#34259579)
I think in some european countries it is, but don't quote me on that.
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by bombcar on Thursday January 05, 2023 @09:13AM (#34259785)
I suspect BDSM is explicitly illegal in more countries than racism is (unless we define racism narrowly, perhaps).
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by nvr219 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @09:11AM (#34259756)
Here are some depending on whether they define the repo as hate speech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_by_country
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by new2yc on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:41AM (#34258903)
GitHub is just a mirror of linux; it is not the primary VCS for it.
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by throw_me_5555 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:55AM (#34258999)
Probably. Just checkout how much fallout RMS generates when sharing his opinion outside software domain. It will be always weird, to kick original autor from project, but it happens from time to time.
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by 127 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @09:36AM (#34260080)
The true test would be if propagating a culture of hatred against men, heterosexuals or white people would be penalized equally.