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Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:19PM (#34018824)
Pleasepleaseplease someone make "Daemon" and "Freedom™" by Daniel Suarez.

And also "The Golden Age" by John C. Wright.

Oh, and the Honor Harrington series.

I mean, hell, I'll take the "Oath of Swords" series. Why NOT make that?

And pleasepleaseplease make a mini-series (NOT A MOVIE) out of "Project Hail Mary."

Actually, yeah, these are all series, not movies. Pleasepleaseplease.

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by rixrax on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:37PM (#34019121)
But if their adaptation of Foundation is a sign of things to come, we should hope it's not Apple TV+ that is going to produce any of these movies/series. Yes, that's what I really came to say here, they gave Foundation to some movie industry bureaucrats that A/B tested the storyline on some Joe Hillbillies and completely butchered the genius of Asimovs novels.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by ryanwaggoner on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:50PM (#34019317)
I guess I'm Joe Hillbilly, because I loved the Foundation tv series. No, it's not a faithful reproduction of the books, and I couldn't care less about that. I can love both and not get bent out of shape, especially since the books would make a pretty crappy tv show.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by fragmede on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:55PM (#34019399)
But if there's only the southwest resemblance between the two (eg World War Z) then it's just a stupid money grab and why not make a new universe for the story to exist in? It would lead to better franchising opportunities when there aren't books to compete with.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by ghaff on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:33PM (#34019942)
I see no problem with a screenwriter taking inspiration from a book but taking it in a different direction to adapt it for a different media (and perhaps time). Honestly, I find the fans who can't tolerate one deviance from their bible tiresome.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by quadrifoliate on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:16PM (#34019698)
What are your precise criticisms about the adaptation?

I am seriously unsure of whether I like it or not. Some ways in which I have gone back and forth:

- It's visually on point (I think) in conveying the vastness of Asimov's imagined Galaxy.

- The storyline is bent out of shape; but not enough to make it seem like a totally different series.

- Then again, Salvor Hardin's character and others are much more action-oriented whereas in the books they are depicted as thinking and strategizing a lot more (from what I can remember, I really need to re-read the books).

So I don't really have any substantive criticisms apart from a vague feeling of "this could have been better". Do you?

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by Jayschwa on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:50PM (#34020162)
I didn't finish the TV show (I got maybe halfway through), but my main problem was the changes to Hardin. In the book, Hardin is a shrewd politician, and there's nothing magical or blessed about him. He "defeats" Anacreon by exploiting their own dim beliefs in magic against them. In the TV show, Hardin is a warrior with a special "magical" connection to the Vault. That conveys a very different, almost contradictory message compared to the book.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by strangus on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:43PM (#34019221)
"Snow Crash" first, please.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by speed_spread on Friday December 16, 2022 @04:01PM (#34020310)
Snowcrash would best be conveyed with psychedelic Anime à la Redline. Characters are huge, action scenes are over the top.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by pantalaimon on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:35PM (#34019090)
Daemon and Freedom should be easy to adapt, they read like a script to an action movie already! Those are real page-turners, hard to put down once you start them.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by Aaronstotle on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:32PM (#34019034)
I found project Hail Mary overall enjoyable but at times it was very hard to read due to the main characters internal dialogue.

I hope if they do an adaption they give it a more serious tone than the book

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by trentnix on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:29PM (#34018989)
I love the Golden Age and the entire trilogy from John C Wright. I can’t imagine how anyone could possibly adapt it with any success.

So many fantastic, dense, and challenging subjects are explored in those books.

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:31PM (#34019019)
It's so funny to me, because I love the books, and I believe John C. Wright would absolutely despise all of my politics. I feel like the College of Hortation is a great idea, and I'm pretty sure he thinks it's the bad guy.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by jandrese on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:24PM (#34018901)
Project Hail Mary already has a film adaptation in progress.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:27PM (#34018946)
If it's 9 hours long, I'm in.

Oh yeah, I remember he announced who's playing Rocky: https://twitter.com/andyweirauthor/status/150996900478120345...

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by volkk on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:39PM (#34019163)
not sure if this is furthering of the joke, but this was an april fool's post
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by celestialcheese on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:30PM (#34018995)
Look at the date ;)
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:31PM (#34019026)
Emma Stone with pouty lips: "Bad bad bad."
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by jandrese on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:08PM (#34019605)
Honestly, I'm not sure a super long adaptation is necessary for Project Hail Mary. I could see all of the major beats getting done in about 2 hours or so. There are chapters with fairly long descriptions of the experiments that could be summed up in just a few seconds of screentime. People who want to see the math can read the book. Part of making a good movie adaptation is realizing that film and print are different media and a fully faithful direct translation rarely works very well. The movie ends up bloated and overly exposition heavy, sometimes forgetting that the audience can see what is going on.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:18PM (#34021314)
You're absolutely right...

But on the other hand, I'm sooo glad to have 11 hours and 21 minutes of Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings Extended Editions.

But on the Gripping Hand, I realize that having so much of The Hobbit is too much.

(Speaking of which, The Mote in God's Eye might also be really fun to see on the screen.)

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:04PM (#34019531)
Since we are making requests, could we also add "Transmetropolitan' to the list? It is ridiculous how well it predicted some trends.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by j0hnyl on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:09PM (#34019618)
Hell yes! This should really be an Anime.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by mabbo on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:08PM (#34019602)
I think Suarez's "Delta-V" would make for exciting TV.

And oh my god, while looking that up I discovered he's got a SEQUEL coming in a month? Well, thank you for reminding me that Daniel Suarez exists.

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:16PM (#34021273)
I love recommending Daemon to people, if I know they don't mind imagery of a bit of violence, gore, drug use... I've been a fan of his ever since he was Leinad Zeraus, self-publishing Daemon. (I think I have a physical copy with that name on it?)
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by nameoda on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:21PM (#34019765)
Given that "Daemon" and "Freedom™" have sort of a negative portrayal of self-driving vehicles and AR/VR, it would probably not be in big tech's best interests to adapt them. But one can hope!
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:14PM (#34021250)
Lol, it's like that satire news blurb:

A new Silicon Valley tech company made the Nebula Device, based on the dystopian novel, "Please God, No One Ever Make The Nebula Device." Available in stores for Christmas!

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by Freak_NL on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:27PM (#34019849)
> Oh, and the Honor Harrington series.

Hard military sci-fi as a TV series? It can only disappoint. Give it a decade or so until the current trend of making everything as palatable as possible to as broad an audience as possible has died and people start making things that they feel work for the source material again.

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by Apocryphon on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:40PM (#34020050)
I mean, they just finished adapting The Expanse.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:11PM (#34021216)
To me, each Honor Harrington book felt like a really long episode of the best Star Trek : The Next Generation. It just felt so... great... to be reading about a ruthlessly brilliant leader who inspired the people around her to be the best they could be.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by namuol on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:34PM (#34019964)
While we’re listing our ideas for dream screen adaptations, I would love to see the Broken Earth books as an anime series.
Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by Manjuuu on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:37PM (#34019998)
> Pleasepleaseplease someone make "Daemon" and "Freedom™" by Daniel Suarez.

Wonderful books but I wonder who would be able to turn them into a decent series. At some point there was a plan to turn Daemon into a movie but that never happened, probably for the best.

I don't know Viking, after seeing what happened to Foundation...

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by VikingCoder on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:08PM (#34021174)
So, I mean, I know that not everyone loves The Lord of the Rings movies. But I just need everyone to remember that Peter Jackson did them. And I mean, I thought Heavenly Creatures was really interesting, and I think I'm one of the dozens of people who really liked The Frighteners (yes, I'm a hipster Frighteners fan.) But if you'd asked me, "Viking, should we trust Peter Jackson to make 11 hours and 21 minutes of The Lord of the Rings (extended editions)?" I would have said, "No," and I would have, in my humble opinion, been totally completely wrong.

I mean, I just need to remind people that great movies exist. LA Confidential. The Matrix. Hell, even the Fugitive is a lot of fun (for what it is.) Mr. Robot is simultaneously amazing and also boring as shit for huge stretches - but man, they committed to that vision, and when the big moments hit, they hit hard. True Lies. True Romance. The Abyss. The Fisher King. Good Will Hunting. Inglourious Basterds. Hell, even Hackers. And Sneakers. La Femme Nikita. Lola Rennt. Bourne Identity.

I think Daemon and Freedom could be done wonderfully.

Just imagine ending the series with a nice cackle...

"I do so enjoy my vork..."

Re:Apple TV+ to adapt William Gibson’s cyberpunk novel Neuro... by Apocryphon on Friday December 16, 2022 @04:27PM (#34020671)
Since this thread has a lot of chatter about all kinds of sci-fi adaptations, I'd like to endorse a show for Schismatrix Plus by Bruce Sterling, which fuses cyberpunk setting and action, transhumanism and the evolution of the species, space colonization, and the rise and fall of human ideological empires based on all of the previous. A story that spans epochs and the entire Solar System.