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Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by Xcelerate on Thursday December 08, 2022 @03:46PM (#33913128)
The only thing that keeps me from completely using Google Maps over Waze is the speed trap reporting (Google Maps has a similar feature, but it’s not nearly as effective as Waze’s).
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by dcdc123 on Thursday December 08, 2022 @11:33PM (#33917476)
I’m a nomad and have spent the last two+ years traveling the us. Google maps routing has degraded significantly in that time. I was really happy with it at first but it’s gotten worse over time. Now I dread using it and know it is going to fail to inform me correctly about which lane to be in, will pick odd routes (especially when not on the highway), and most annoying of all is they have added all sorts of phantom merges which often obscure the real next turn/exit until the last second because there is a nonexistent merge on the map.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by albrewer on Friday December 09, 2022 @11:55AM (#33923542)
> they have added all sorts of phantom merges which often obscure the real next turn/exit until the last second because there is a nonexistent merge on the map

This is the thing that I hate the most. It wouldn't be so bad if they kept a zoom level where I could see what's coming up, but they zoom in super tight until the phantom merge point is passed. If I'm traveling 60 mph and I have to cut across 3 lanes of busy traffic in less than a tenth of a mile, I'd like to have a fucking heads up. When cruising on the interstate, I'd like to know my exit number without having to scroll past all the instances where the number of lanes changes on my way there.

My Garmin GPS from 2007 had a better UX than this.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by Sunspark on Friday December 09, 2022 @12:33AM (#33917882)
Try Here Maps. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Supports offline as well.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by btdk on Friday December 09, 2022 @02:12AM (#33918517)
I fear that this will end up ruining my day.

I'm used to the speedtrap, speed limits and general crowd sourced alerts in Waze. I remember seing this in google maps, but it disappeared again. I don't know if my location (Denmark) has something to say about that?

That being said, the estimates that waze give me, especially for sudden accidents, are way off. I'm told it's better in the Copenhagen area, due to more users on the road, but where I live, it's almost non-existant.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by AareyBaba on Friday December 09, 2022 @03:10AM (#33918886)
I recently decided to give Apple Maps driving directions a try and was surprised to find that it notified me of a driving hazard (a trashcan on the road) in my lane a few seconds before I would have hit it. Does anyone know how they detect something like that ?
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by mschuster91 on Friday December 09, 2022 @05:35AM (#33919828)
Someone called in the cops, who have interfaces with radio stations and other warning systems for road dangers. A local radio station here in Munich claims a latency time of mere seconds as soon as the police knows about it [1].

[1] https://www.radioarabella.de/geisterfahrer-wir-warnen-sie-in...

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by bm-rf on Friday December 09, 2022 @09:47AM (#33921724)
A user probably sent the report further down the road. Hazard reporting should pin the location right when you pull up the list of options, I think Waze does this when you click the report button.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212226

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by jazzyjackson on Friday December 09, 2022 @06:45AM (#33920248)
I think this is the dumbest feature imaginable - maps is aware there is an obstacle in the road and so it pops a toast up on the screen, attracting my attention to a timed button for me to confirm or cancel ??
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by mdip on Friday December 09, 2022 @10:25AM (#33922238)
That's it for me, too. And damn it's effective.

About two years ago I had an opportunity to run a "for fun" experiment. My family and another family went on vacation together but I had to come home a couple of days early due to business travel. Because of vehicle sizes, I ended up taking the other car home -- which was a small luxury SUV with a high-end radar detector ... somewhere inside the damn thing[1]. I had Waze up. For whatever reason, between two different states, the roads were teaming with traffic enforcement. When I stopped to fill up, I grabbed a small notebook and a pen and kept score: Radar/Waze with ticks under "Cop Missed", "Cop Found", "False Positive". The radar was worthless. It had lower false-positives than I'd expected (I remember those things going off all the time for nothing) but when it went off, it went off too late. It missed more than half of them.

Waze, on the other hand, had very few false positives. I suspect some that I marked "false positive" were really me failing to see the police officer[2]. This was "8-hours of highway (non-turnpike/toll)" and there was a police officer every 5 miles (I went 2, maybe 3 pages in tick marks on a hand-sized spiral-bound $0.99 gas station notepad). I don't even know that I bothered calculating everything out completely. For one, Waze did not miss a single speed trap that entire drive. Where I live (metro to a major mid-west city), it's rare that I'm the first reporter or that I see a cop that Waze isn't alerting me about already.

Beyond police, the reports for disabled vehicles (by law you must move one lane over where I live) is very helpful for both "ticket avoidance" and safety (if you care enough to follow the rules).

I prefer the Google Maps interface -- and generally everything else about it over Waze, but I use Waze 99.9% of the time and for every drive. I have it setup to not speak the directions because much of the time I'm traveling to places that I am very familiar with the routes (I might follow a suggestion over my own preference, though, because "Waze tends to be more right"). I use it, entirely, for the social reporting features. Though Maps, at one point, added this (is it still there?) it wasn't even close to the quality of that provided by Waze. I'm really hoping they "put the social features into Maps" and I'll switch to maps or "move the UI more toward Maps in Waze" and I'll continue using Waze.

[0] For context, I'm not an aggressive driver ... I don't drive that much any longer as it is so I tend to be a lot more cautious these days. But it's way too easy to not notice a 10-15 MPH speed limit change accidentally and driving laws are among the small set of laws that are more often broken unintentionally, than intentionally.

[1] I would have had no idea what the insane beeping was all about but it was a brand that a friend of mine owned growing up and I recognized the tone ... but he had it installed in a manner that it you'd never know there was one in the car except for the sound (they're illegal in Canada which they traveled to frequently). It was a very expensive model outfitted with the latest Radar Detector Detector Detector Detector Detector (odd or even number, I can't remember). I had no idea how to silence it so I was afraid I'd get pulled over and guarantee myself a ticket for having it.

[2] Where I live, on-ramps make great speed traps. If positioned just so, you can't see them until they're behind you, and you can't see them in your passenger mirror at all if it's a typical mirror/aimed the way most drivers aim them -- requiring you to turn your head to locate them (something you're probably not in the habit of doing while chilling at highway speeds).

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Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by surfpel on Thursday December 08, 2022 @04:45PM (#33913980)
Only if you want to die!

The standard highway speed is 15mph over the speed limit here in CA.

If you follow the speed limit, you’ll be going too slow to effectively maneuver or see incoming cars and increase chances of a crash.

Ergo: break the law or die.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by akiselev on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:16PM (#33914473)
> The standard highway speed is 15mph over the speed limit here in CA.

Depends entirely where in California. LA is a good 15-20 mph over, San Diego is more like 10-15 mph over, and the South Bay Area is more like 0-5 mph over (which drove me crazy coming from LA)

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by carom on Thursday December 08, 2022 @06:50PM (#33915497)
The pandemic was amazing for traffic. Flying up the 101 to SF at 95mph.

(Source: from LA)

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by hunter2_ on Thursday December 08, 2022 @11:45PM (#33917555)
That's why the Cannonball Run article has a chapter [0] dedicated to the pandemic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_Run_challenge#Durin...

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by surfpel on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:39PM (#33914761)
Agreed more or less (lived in all 3), although South Bay can be a tossup. I've felt slow doing 80 and fast doing 70.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by teaearlgraycold on Thursday December 08, 2022 @10:27PM (#33917060)
Google Maps claims that much of the bay’s 101 is 55 mph. I don’t know if I believe that, but if true then it’s standard to do 20 above here.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by wilg on Thursday December 08, 2022 @07:18PM (#33915761)
Is there any evidence of this?
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Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by dang on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:03PM (#33914274)
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Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by Minor49er on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:19PM (#33914521)
These days, there are more drivers and fewer cops to make the boogeyman of a random speed trap seem like a possibility. Showing that there is a cop ahead would work better, I imagine. One of the reasons why people drive recklessly is because they don't think any cops are around to bust them
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by Xcelerate on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:27PM (#33914615)
Yes, I considered it
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by worewood on Thursday December 08, 2022 @11:17PM (#33917371)
Try complying when you live in a corrupt country and the legal speed drops from 60 to 50 just on that specific 10 meters conveniently by a speed camera
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by nichos on Thursday December 08, 2022 @06:56PM (#33915557)
Because all laws are rational and make sense.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by Steltek on Friday December 09, 2022 @08:52AM (#33921197)
One law that does make sense is that drivers should not be playing with their phone while operating a car. Speed and distracted driving are leading factors in fatal crashes. Car crashes are leading cause of non-disease related death in the US (after guns and suicide).