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Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by vkou on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:47PM (#33709422)
Web2 - stores exabytes of data.

Web3 - stores a few text files and rotten hyperlinks to jpgs of (if you're lucky) poorly-drawn apes and (if you're unlucky) rugs, while setting billions of dollars on fire.

Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by k__ on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:56PM (#33709559)
I think, you should look into Filecoin and Arweave.

Your assumptions seem to be based on the (rather specific) use-case of art NFTs. They got quite some hype, but to be honest, I didn't get them either.

Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by this_user on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:07PM (#33709745)
Why exactly would you trust random strangers with your critical data rather than use S3?
Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by jhoechtl on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:22PM (#33710014)
In the same sense I trusted my MP3 downloads on eDonkey before the records association played a foul game.
Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by Godel_unicode on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @04:30PM (#33711784)
s/played a foul game/forced me to pay for what I’d been stealing/

FTFY.

Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by Dzugaru on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:24PM (#33710052)
There is one reason is that the protocol of storage is open. Doesn't mean the thing can't die obviously, but there is some hope that someone will continue to store the data - there is some incentive (crypto value, however low or unstable that can be) to do that.

Also, nothing stops you from storing the critical data in S3 too. I wouldn't bet what will last longer as a permanent storage.

Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by vkou on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:22PM (#33710019)
1. Both the mindshare and marketshare of NFTs and similar garbage dwarfs any use of Filecoin.

2. Dropbox and Drive are cheaper and better. S3 is cheaper.

Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by k__ on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:28PM (#33710106)
1. That's not really an argument. There is literally exabytes of data on Filecoin (https://stats.filecoin.io/d/z6FtI92Zz/filecoin-chain-stats?o...)

2. And gone if you stop paying.

Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by ceejayoz on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:34PM (#33710192)
> And gone if you stop paying.

Are Filecoin nodes all hosting files for free? I can put a terabyte of files on there and it'll never go away?

Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by foobiekr on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @03:20PM (#33710904)
No. That is all a lie.
Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by vkou on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:32PM (#33710175)
1. That's capacity, that's not usage. I don't care about imagined usage, I care about actual usage.

2. No, it'll just be gone if crypto crashes enough and the miners sell or turn down their hardware (Probably precipitated by some fraud in some other part of the ecosystem unwinding).

There's a reason nobody has built the next Dropbox on Filecoin. [1]

[1] I mean, you can do that, if you have Einstein hair, and your goal is to grift dumb VC money, but you're not going to put together a better product.

Re:Web 3.0 – An Arrogant and Treacherous Successor Doomed to... by foobiekr on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @03:19PM (#33710892)
This. It is amazing to me that the cult members talk about the fiction as if their take on it is real instead of the reality.