Re:Study: Electroshock therapy more successful for depressio...
by sneak on Monday October 24, 2022 @02:05AM
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Ketamine’s effects on depression are not caused by the hallucinations or psychedelic effects.
I can’t speak to other hallucinogens but I would imagine the situation is the same there. The day after an acid trip isn’t a new neurochemical environment because of the powerful hallucinations the day before, it is something else.
> My own experience with psychedelics tells me no: once you become familiar with the effects the "high" loses some of it's properties that make it a useful tool for introspection.
My own experiences run directly counter to this assertion.
Re:Study: Electroshock therapy more successful for depressio...
by boredtofears on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:58AM
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> The day after an acid trip isn’t a new neurochemical environment because of the powerful hallucinations the day before, it is something else
What is a "new neurochemical environment" exactly? I've had many acid comedowns, and they have all been affected by how the high was - emotionally, mentally, and physically. What do you mean by "its something else"?
Re:Study: Electroshock therapy more successful for depressio...
by tekknik on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:55AM
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I’m far from an expert here, but as I understand it there is no repeated, or daily dose of the psilocybin. Instead it physically changes your brain. Here’s one study:
Re:Study: Electroshock therapy more successful for depressio...
by novok on Monday October 24, 2022 @02:06PM
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IMO I think it is still a new neurochemical environment, much like how the body is different after intense exercise for the next few days, as it recovers. It gets sore, weaker, etc. There is definitely a training & depletion effect for the brain.
The effects of psychedelics are profound to a person who hasn't experienced them, which is the vast majority of people today. I think, when a person goes through a powerful experience they've never had, it makes them a lot more suggestive, which in turn makes therapies more effective. Will this still be the case if psychedelics usage is normalized? When a person knows what to expect out of the drug will they still remain as suggestible to therapy?
My own experience with psychedelics tells me no: once you become familiar with the effects the "high" loses some of it's properties that make it a useful tool for introspection.
I haven't done psychedelics in a purely therapeutic setting so there may be something to my observation that I'm missing completely.