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Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by geysersam on Monday October 10, 2022 @12:44AM (#33147860)
Why should residential property values increase anyway? It's not like the population growth in the US (overall) is staggering. Property prices the last couple of decades are largely artificial. They've long been disconnected from the supply and (non-speculative) demand, that's (one important reason) why the market's been unable to solve the problem. The signal is broken.
Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by ThrustVectoring on Monday October 10, 2022 @01:24AM (#33148068)
> Why should residential property values increase anyway?

Total non-worker consumption is equal to the unconsumed portion of total worker production, the worker-to-retiree ratio is getting worse each year, and total productivity gains are stalling. Working-age adults have to get squeezed somehow on pain of retirees voting different policies, and housing/rent/mortgage is the least flexible in terms of household budget and least politically obvious pathway for it.

Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by ako on Monday October 10, 2022 @02:08AM (#33148303)
Housing prices are mostly supply and demand driven, but it's the supply and demand of location, not of the building itself.

Next to that, the maximum price is largely defined by how much people can and are willing to borrow with a typical income for the location and the type of building.

And with location being in short supply, locations (and houses) go for maximum price. With rent going up, maximum price will come down, to keep total price the same.

Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by geysersam on Monday October 10, 2022 @02:18AM (#33148362)
> how much people can borrow

This is the main factor, and it's a result of the monetary policy of the last decades.

Since this number has been increasing compared to wages, it's becoming less sensible to build apartments for rental. But at the same time, those are needed to increase density and availability of affordable housing in attractive cities.

It's a mess.

Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by Karrot_Kream on Monday October 10, 2022 @04:12AM (#33149007)
It's complicated. The loose monetary policy is certainly one aspect. Another is that most American city-center residential areas are still zoned at low densities. If organic growth could lead to organic densification in central locations, there would be less impact to the housing market, but American zoning is stuck in the aftermath of WWII and is loathe to densify.
Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by cloudier on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:35PM (#33158078)
Yep. One study^1 estimates that zoning and land use restrictions across the country leads to an (unnecessary) increase in housing costs worth 2% of the US GDP (about $400 billion).

[1]: https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.32.1.3

Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by tsss on Monday October 10, 2022 @05:16AM (#33149372)
Environmental regulations and such also artificially increase the price of older buildings because you can buy existing buildings that don't fulfil new regulations but can't build new ones. This is effectively a top-down supply restriction of low quality housing.
Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by coffeeblack on Monday October 10, 2022 @02:21AM (#33148379)
Because everybody wants to live in the same place. You can get houses very cheap in places that are not popular.
Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by fredgrott on Monday October 10, 2022 @05:53AM (#33149558)
it's the underlying FinTech of housing loans that is the systematic driver of high house prices.

To get low house prices we would have to destroy Fintech of house loans which will not happen.

Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by colinmhayes on Monday October 10, 2022 @10:01AM (#33151514)
Well for one thing houses have gotten much bigger and nicer.
Re:Made in America is back, leaving US factories scrambling ... by starik36 on Monday October 10, 2022 @11:39AM (#33152766)
> It's not like the population growth ... is staggering

It is staggering. California in 1990 was 29 million. In 2020, it's 39 million. If this is not staggering, I don't know what is.