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Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by IAmGraydon on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @02:48PM (#33011681)
They need to ban political ads, period. For good.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by dont__panic on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @02:52PM (#33011736)
Toss in pharmaceuticals while we're at it. Both are purchases that individuals should research from trusted sources, not "ask their doctor about" or decide based on gut instinct. I don't think it's OK to let Pepsi and Coke sink their mental manipulation hooks into your brain... let alone political candidates and drugs.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:28PM (#33012144)
The US and New Zealand are the only countries in the world that allow pharma ads.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/medications/do-not-get-sold-o...

Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by loufe on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:43PM (#33012990)
We have drug ads in Canada, too.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by Tomte on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:08PM (#33012613)
For prescription drugs.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by rglover on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:00PM (#33012500)
Hey man, I didn't know I had restless leg syndrome until they told me I did in the commercial. My left eye twitches now but at least my legs don't shake when I sleep.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by distrill on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:05PM (#33012565)
who knew that had a name! i always just called that Jimmy Legs
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by Brian_K_White on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:00PM (#33012508)
There's no way to define "political ad".

Anything can be a political ad, whether it says so overtly or not.

That ends up meaning subjective reviewers looking at things an just deciding they think something's "real" purpose in political, and failing to identify others that actually are.

Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by axus on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:58PM (#33012479)
I'd say political speech is a very important category of free speech.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by waaveshine on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:13PM (#33012657)
Electing not to host political advertisements on a private platform is not a free speech issue.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by SllX on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:53PM (#33013124)
It is when it’s a general purpose ad platform. It’s just not a First Amendment issue. Free speech isn’t just a synonym for a law that protects it from the government.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by weakfish on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:06PM (#33012576)
Free speech is only in reference to government restrictions not private platforms
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by vikingerik on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:19PM (#33012734)
This comes up in every such discussion. The legalities of free speech apply only to government restriction, true. But the concept and ideals of free speech are something that a private platform can support and promote, or suppress and bury.

We need a concept to distinguish these for speech, like for software. Something like "Free as in legal" vs "Free as in voice".

Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by trasz on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:32PM (#33012880)
Ads are not speech.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by SideQuark on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @05:13PM (#33013342)
That also has the effect of locking in incumbent people and parties. No political ads means it's even less possible to get new candidates before lots of eyeballs.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by BiteCode_dev on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:41PM (#33012975)
They need to ban ads, period. For good.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by TOMDM on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:38PM (#33012253)
Say I want to advertise my new documentary on climate change, should that be banned?
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by SQueeeeeL on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:56PM (#33012461)
This is a bizarre non-sequitor "what aboutism" that I feel is stolen from some pundit

----- Edit: Same thing with the "But what is politics??" comment duplicated twice below

Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by matthewmacleod on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:27PM (#33012826)
I don't get why you think this is anything other than a very obvious and genuine question that hasn't been answered.

Someone said "ban political ads", and I don't know what that means. Does it mean banning any ad that references a politician or political party? Any ad that references an explicitly political issue? Any controversial issue that's currently a hot political topic?

I want to know what people's views are on this, which is why I asked.

Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by SideQuark on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @05:16PM (#33013380)
This isn't whataboutism; it's not trying to deflect from the original. It's a very valid claim. When science (or insert topic X here) is politicized and political ads are banned, then are stories about science (insert topic X here) also banned?

It's impossible to define what is a political ad that satisfies, say, 75% of the populace.

Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by nonethewiser on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:37PM (#33012238)
What constitutes a "political" add?
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by rglover on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:03PM (#33012549)
"Hi, my name is Total Liar and I'm running for Useless Government Position. I'm going to lie to you about what I'm going to do and instead line my pockets, sell my book, and appear on your favorite hate-cast about people you disagree with! Don't forget to donate so we can DOMINATE the <libs|GQP>!"
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by matthewmacleod on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @02:59PM (#33011814)
What constitutes a political ad?
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:50PM (#33013089)
Context: This is within one week of an election. It's a bit clearer in that context. If it says "vote for X" or "X is a horrible person/candidate/waste of matter", then it's political. Ditto if it says that about ballot initiative Y.

Within this context, if it says "the federal reserve eats frozen puppies", it's likely not political. Ditto if it says "embargo country X for reason Y".

It can still be grey. If candidate X runs on position Y, and an ad is about position Y without ever mentioning candidate X, it's probably still political.

But all in all, it's about the election, not politics in general, and so it's a lot more clear. Not perfectly clear, no, but it's more clear than politics in general.

Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by 29083011397778 on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:22PM (#33012078)
I think "Does it mention or show a politian or political party?" is a reasonable first pass, with room to add additional restrictions as people find loopholes.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by nonethewiser on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:39PM (#33012268)
I'm not sure this answers the question because it fails to define what "political" means.
Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by toast0 on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @04:23PM (#33012781)
In this narrow definition, a politician is a person holding or running for elected office, and a political party is a specifically registered organization that is formed with the express intent of organizing voters and politicians, such that the voters vote for the politicians. There's a list on Wikipedia [1].

Of course, this narrow definition leaves out a lot of political issue ads that don't mention candidates or political parties by name, but are still very much political. Things like "support / oppose access to guns / abortion / health care / immigration / education / clean water / fair elections / military service / communication / electricity / there's a lot of other stuff" are quite often political ads without necessarily being tied to any particular candidate or party.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_t...

Re:Upcoming Restriction Period for US ads about social issue... by cellis on Wednesday September 28, 2022 @03:39PM (#33012266)
"Go to youtube and watch <influencer> NOW, your way of life depends on this upcoming vote!"

<influencer> on youtube: ...vote <politician>!