Re:Futurist prediction methods and accuracy
by abecedarius on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @07:05PM
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That didn't quite match my memory of Vinge, so fwiw I just checked the two earliest publications I know of:
> Such trend-curves... extrapolated 30 or 40 years they are so high and steep that even the most naive futurist discounts their accuracy.
(That's the closest therein to a specific prediction date, from 1983: https://imgur.com/a/HrUxGts)
> let me more specific: I'll be surprised if this event occurs before 2005 or after 2030.
From 1993: https://edoras.sdsu.edu/~vinge/misc/singularity.html
Re:Futurist prediction methods and accuracy
by goatlover on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @07:49PM
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Okay, maybe I remembered it wrong, or someone else gave that range. Vinge has about 8 more years to be surprised.
Re:Futurist prediction methods and accuracy
by TigeriusKirk on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:20PM
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Specifically he would be surprised if there isn't a computer with greater than human intelligence by 2030.
It's interesting that 29 years after he said that, and 8 years remaining on the timeline, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility.
Re:Futurist prediction methods and accuracy
by abecedarius on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @01:00AM
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One of the example possibilities mentioned in one of his essays or interviews was, what if with some poorly-understood tweaks to neural network training, it started working much better at scale? At the time I thought he was really reaching with that one.
Re:Futurist prediction methods and accuracy
by bee_rider on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @06:24PM
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Is there supposed to be an implication of "if it doesn't happen by 2020 I don't think it will ever happen" in the Vinge prediction?
Re:Futurist prediction methods and accuracy
by goatlover on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @07:47PM
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No, it's he would be surprised if it happened later.
Kurzweil just says 2045, because that's where his chart or accelerating returns tells him it will happen.