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Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by dbxkcichhdfufu on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:00AM (#32761745)
Hitler, mao and stalin can all go jump as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure they weren't pure evil either but sometimes people deserve the label.

Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by DonHopkins on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:37AM (#32764096)
Admittedly one of the most horrible things about Steve Jobs was that he was good friends with Larry Ellison.

...But at least he wasn't Larry Ellison.

Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by LewisVerstappen on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:04AM (#32762227)
In what universe is Steve Jobs in the same category as dictators who killed tens of millions of people?
Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by jasonlotito on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:16AM (#32765043)
From the grandparent comment, "Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey."

The category being human.

Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by JasserInicide on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:06AM (#32764915)
In a universe with too many terminally online doomscrollers who make politics their personality
Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by jacooper on Thursday September 08, 2022 @06:47AM (#32763775)
Cursed user name lol
Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by LewisVerstappen on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:36AM (#32764612)
Better than TotoHorner
Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by AshamedCaptain on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:41AM (#32764135)
In NO way anyone is making a comparison of Steve Jobs to a dictator. The original post was claiming:

> It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad

> Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey.

i.e. the completely correct but also completely useless claim that there is no person who is absolutely evil or absolutely good . What the analogy is trying to do here is to say "OK, so you don't think Hitler is absolutely evil?", not "OK, so you don't think Steve Jobs is Hitler?".

Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by neals on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:37AM (#32762471)
something something modern slavery
Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by teddyh on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:19AM (#32761874)
Since they’re long dead, little is lost by labeling them evil. But the closer they are to our present time, the more we must sacrifice by declaring someone an anathema. Worst of all is living people, of course.
Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by sidcool on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:18AM (#32761870)
Those are extreme exceptions. Steve Jobs and the others you mentioned are not even in close leagues. That was my point, we try to judge everyone with the same yardstick and divide them in strict binary buckets. By that logic, Steve Jobs would either belong to same category as either Hitler or Gandhi.
Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by cdelsolar on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:21AM (#32764448)
Gandhi was a horrible racist.
Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by dbxkcichhdfufu on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:47AM (#32762082)
Are they exceptions? I'm sure they had normal families and lives prior to their murderous transitions.

My point is be careful how much you choose to let people get away with a "they're just human" pass. Some people deserve the labels. For anyone that worked with Steve I'm willing to bet they think he deserves the arsehole label they give him.

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Re:Steve Jobs emails himself (2010) by YesWeWill on Thursday September 08, 2022 @04:09AM (#32762738)
Links? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I hope you're not going to link Russian fascist propaganda, though.