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Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by danaris on Saturday August 27, 2022 @01:31PM (#32621200)
I've never been clear on how much Intel couldn't make cooler chips, and how much they just can't admit to themselves that it matters (and thus didn't try very hard).
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by yakkityyak on Saturday August 27, 2022 @01:39PM (#32621276)
Having worked there under BK and Bobby it is very clear why. They didn't invest anything into engineering. Even today their comp is peanuts compared to any other company in the tech industry.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by jamiek88 on Saturday August 27, 2022 @01:50PM (#32621391)
Bbbbbbut benchmarking………market survey……advanced analytics……some HR goober said that we are ‘competitive’.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by n7pdx on Saturday August 27, 2022 @06:10PM (#32623741)
They know it matters, they just don’t have the competence to do it since they promoted a bunch of toadies and charlatans into their technical leadership, and also outsourced a ton of technical work to “low cost geo” so managers can brag about cutting costs.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by stavros on Saturday August 27, 2022 @02:38PM (#32621814)
Why didn't AMD? Is the M2 that much better than Ryzen, for example?
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by kcb on Saturday August 27, 2022 @02:40PM (#32621830)
It's not. 5nm Ryzen will finally give us the more apples to apples comparison. Unfortunately we're probably a ways out from 5nm Ryzen mobile chips.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by stavros on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:04PM (#32622018)
Hmm, how did Apple get to 5nm first? Does the fact its ARM have anything to do with it?
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by cercatrova on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:10PM (#32622062)
They pay TSMC loads of money to have the first chips for each process node. They were first to 5nm, they'll be first to 3nm next year too. This is because they sell whole products rather than chips like Intel and AMD, so Apple's profit margins are astronomical compared to them, and so they can afford to pay TSMC so much.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by stavros on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:18PM (#32622153)
Oh I didn't know that, thanks. So it's more that they bought out all of TSMC's product, rather than that they came up with an innovative new process.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by 0x457 on Saturday August 27, 2022 @08:11PM (#32624507)
Well, they bankrolled TSMC's R&D for N3 nm and N5, which allowed TSMC to increase capacity and get to new node ahead of competition.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by cercatrova on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:22PM (#32622189)
Well, they also have some of the best silicon engineers in the Valley, and the world. It's not just TSMC, they only build what is designed.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by 7speter on Sunday August 28, 2022 @01:50AM (#32626120)
Also their products include iPhones and iPads. Intel nor AMD are putting their chips into 10s of millions of phones, especially phones people will pay top dollar for, per quarter.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by fooker on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:08PM (#32622049)
They bought out TSMC fab capacity by biddng significantly over AMD.