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Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by bee_rider on Monday August 22, 2022 @05:00PM (#32557193)
We should just define a year to be 360 days long and made up of 12 30 day months.

Then we can elect some druids or whatever to arbitrarily, at the start of each year, define which dates the seasonal borders will land on. Events which are truly dependent on weather can be defined in terms of "Days after the season starts."

Or we could define a 5.5+-.5 day holiday between the beginning and end of a given year. Those days will be declared to not belong to any year. We will turn off all our computers for those days, and pretend they didn't happen. If you are born within them, you get a special hat or something.

Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by Bilal_io on Monday August 22, 2022 @05:10PM (#32557320)
Should we also turn off computers in hospitals and in other important facilities? And then how can we qualify what's important?

Maybe you and I have the privilege to turn off computers for almost a week without a negative effect, but not the majority of the world, everything uses a computer to operate and coordinate.

Think about food production, aviation, shipping, sailing... And much more at both small and big scales.

Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by vlunkr on Monday August 22, 2022 @05:18PM (#32557402)
You're going to take issue with that instead of Druid part?
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by teddyh on Monday August 22, 2022 @05:23PM (#32557452)
I hereby announce my campaign for the role of Time Druid.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by flir on Monday August 22, 2022 @05:42PM (#32557678)
Your symbols of office shall be a blinking 12:00 and the date 01-01-1970.

Wait. In fact, if you weren't born on 01-01-1970, you can't be Time Druid. Sorry.

Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by alexfoo on Monday August 22, 2022 @06:30PM (#32558107)
Do you mean 01-01-1970 or 01-01-1970?
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by paulryanrogers on Monday August 22, 2022 @07:47PM (#32558796)
ISO 8601 dammnit
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by IncRnd on Monday August 22, 2022 @08:34PM (#32559154)
Don't worry. The Druid will handle that.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by Bilal_io on Monday August 22, 2022 @09:32PM (#32559521)
I don't mess with druids.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by DiggyJohnson on Monday August 22, 2022 @07:15PM (#32558536)
How did you make it that far through the comment before choosing this issue to take seriously?
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by ravi-delia on Monday August 22, 2022 @05:27PM (#32557496)
And why do only people born within them get special hats? Maybe you and I have the privilege of going about hatless, but not the majority of the world.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by lenova on Monday August 22, 2022 @06:21PM (#32558034)
First they came for the Special Hats, but I did not speak out -- because I was hatless...
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by mindcrime on Monday August 22, 2022 @07:18PM (#32558554)
Grandpa, tell me a story about the Time Hat Wars

Well sonnie-boy, listen up... it all started on 01-01-1970...

Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by fragmede on Monday August 22, 2022 @08:00PM (#32558886)
Clearly ISO 8601 didn't win in the time hat wars.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by bee_rider on Monday August 22, 2022 @06:48PM (#32558284)
Ah details, the Time Druids will sort that out probably.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by NegativeLatency on Monday August 22, 2022 @05:27PM (#32557512)
Something very similar already exists (in theory): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar

Kodak used to run on this calendar.

Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by account-5 on Monday August 22, 2022 @06:11PM (#32557956)
I was going to mention this. 13 months each with 28 days.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by hanney on Monday August 22, 2022 @06:40PM (#32558197)
Lousy Smarch weather (doh!)
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by _carbyau_ on Monday August 22, 2022 @08:41PM (#32559198)
bye bye Halloween...
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by bee_rider on Monday August 22, 2022 @09:30PM (#32559504)
On the other hand we'll have a whole 13'th month, which will afford us many bonus Fridays the thirteenth.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by dwaite on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @12:05AM (#32560348)
Depends, each month has exactly 28 days. So you either never get a Friday the 13th, or you get one every four weeks.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by _carbyau_ on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:06AM (#32560981)
I thought the implication was every Friday in the 13th Month is a "Friday of the 13th" which is close enough.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by bee_rider on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:34AM (#32561208)
That's what I was going for
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by ddevault on Monday August 22, 2022 @05:54PM (#32557783)
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by bee_rider on Monday August 22, 2022 @06:37PM (#32558170)
Hmm the only one which seems to apply is:

> having one or two days per year which are part of no month is stupid

which I've cleverly circumvented by adding almost a while week. I believe in this case the stupidity overflows and it becomes a good plan again.

Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by runarberg on Monday August 22, 2022 @08:45PM (#32559223)
The Icelandic calendar used to be something like that before the adoption of the Gregorian calendar in the 18th century (Iceland actually skipped the Julian calendar entirely, although I believe the old calendar was actually heavily inspired by the Julian).

All years were 12 months of 30 days plus 4 extra days of summer (Sumarauki in Icelandic), making the year exactly 52 weeks. Leap years had one extra week added to sumarauki making it a total of 11 days and leap years exactly 53 weeks. This has the benefits that each month starts on the same day of the week (e.g. the first day of the first summer month (Harpa) is still celebrated in Iceland and always lands on Thursday).

https://time-meddler.co.uk/the-old-icelandic-calendar/

Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by bee_rider on Monday August 22, 2022 @09:39PM (#32559560)
I'm certainly romanticizing the whole thing but given,

> There is no special numbering of the years used in the Icelandic calendar, so the year may be omitted or the current Gregorian year used.

It is hard not to imagine a day in Sumarauki as being sort of magically timeless.

Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by runarberg on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:31PM (#32559898)
Given that the month after Sumarauki is named Heyannir which literally means busy season during haying, which I’ve heard from farmers is their busiest time of the year, perhaps you are right.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by bobbylarrybobby on Monday August 22, 2022 @08:58PM (#32559295)
Why not 364 days, 13 28-day months, with one special day (probably New Year's Eve), two during a leap year. This would have the interesting feature that a given date always falls on the same day of the week for the duration of the year.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by bee_rider on Monday August 22, 2022 @09:27PM (#32559485)
Then we'll have to come up with a new month name, which will cause all sorts of bikesheding.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by LanceH on Monday August 22, 2022 @06:15PM (#32557981)
This sounds like an excellent first step into imperial units.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by suzzer99 on Monday August 22, 2022 @06:06PM (#32557907)
The Maya did this. Those last 5 orphaned days of the year were considered very bad luck. You did not want to be born in that period.
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by makapuf on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:37AM (#32561228)
This was more or less exactly the French republican calendar, with 10 days weeks also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar
Re:Falsehoods programmers believe about time by emrah on Monday August 22, 2022 @07:44PM (#32558769)
Or 11 30-day months and December will be 3X days. No need to shut down.