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Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by intelVISA on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:37PM (#32526865)
if Carmack's in I'm in. Has he ever been drastically wrong?
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by ytdytvhxgydvhh on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:48PM (#32526990)
Sure (According to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carmack ):

> During his time at id Software, a medium pepperoni pizza would arrive for Carmack from Domino's Pizza almost every day, carried by the same delivery person for more than 15 years.

C’mon man, Domino’s?!

Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by jacquesm on Saturday August 20, 2022 @04:42AM (#32530440)
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by trention on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:34PM (#32527398)
>Has he ever been drastically wrong

Has he ever made a prediction with as drastic a consequence and transformative potential as the one he is currently making about AGI? Actually, is there any track record of predictions he has made and how they have panned out?

Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by enneff on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:48PM (#32526980)
The jury is still out on VR and Meta but it hardly seems promising.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by nscalf on Friday August 19, 2022 @10:51PM (#32528561)
You think Meta's VR systems aren't promising? My read on the situation is that they are making incredible progress, and doing so at scale. They're already delivering good revenue growth on a product that no one would say is "done". VR isn't a "build a good product" problem, it's a deep tech/hardware R&D problem before you can even open the door to building a good product.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by intelVISA on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:39PM (#32527431)
Fair point, though I think VR is going to be solid for games once hardware properly catches up in a decade or so.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by mardifoufs on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:21PM (#32527286)
Not sure he was right about the "putting down his own cat because it was annoying" thing.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by 4ad on Friday August 19, 2022 @10:05PM (#32528339)
Good lord. I dislike cats, but this is vile. Totally lost any respect I had for Carmack.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by 8f2ab37a-ed6c on Friday August 19, 2022 @11:20PM (#32528729)
Don't meet your heroes.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by 4ad on Saturday August 20, 2022 @03:25PM (#32534545)
To be fair, Carmack wasn't ever a hero to me.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by archagon on Saturday August 20, 2022 @01:39AM (#32529436)
Newton worked on alchemy for much of his life.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by staticman2 on Saturday August 20, 2022 @01:54PM (#32533886)
Has Carmack made a time bound prediction on AGI?

He can't ever be "wrong" on AGI if he hasn't even made a disprovable claim about AGI.

Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by momentoftop on Sunday August 21, 2022 @03:31PM (#32543591)
Throughout the Wolfenstein codebase, he spelled "column" with two "l"s.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by grimgrin on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:42PM (#32526915)
No one can argue he doesn't know how to summon demons
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by tmpz22 on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:44PM (#32526946)
When he went to go work on VR at Facebook?
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by kastagg on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:13PM (#32527222)
That's misleading. Oculus wasn't originally Facebook, and it wasn't Facebook when Carmack joined. Carmack was working on the Oculus hardware around the time Oculus was founded in 2012. He joined Oculus in 2013. Facebook didn't acquire Oculus until 2014. You could criticize him for not leaving, but he didn't "go to work on VR at Facebook."
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by grimgrin on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:47PM (#32526973)
Wrong in the moral sense?

He's still there though, right?

edit: he is not still

edit: he is still a consulting CTO

Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by tmpz22 on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:06PM (#32527154)
* To his credit Carmack is a one-person brand and attaching your (good) brand to a tainted brand (Facebook) isn't great

* Many believe Occulus isn't succeeding fast enough, and so the years Carmack spent on Occulus/Metaverse could have been spent on any number of interesting projects. Although I'm sure the money was amazing and I can't object to him taking it.

* If Occulus/Metaverse succeeds it will be a ultra-monetized environment (re: Farmville) and encourage a huge amount of consumer-hostile policies like unlimited tracking (since Facebook owns the hardware now). No gamer wants that. The whales who will be justifying its existence won't benefit from that.

Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by kastagg on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:14PM (#32527237)
Carmack joined Oculus before the Facebook acquisition, so it's misleading to say he attached his brand to Facebook's.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by beeboop on Friday August 19, 2022 @09:28PM (#32528151)
I doubt Carmack is motivated that much by money. He has way more than he'll ever spend.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by barrysteve on Friday August 19, 2022 @10:37PM (#32528481)
His reply to this tweet is that he didn't want to spend $20million of his own money on this venture. When you have the option to throw 20m on projects, you can spend it reasonably quickly.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by atq2119 on Saturday August 20, 2022 @03:14AM (#32529955)
His actual claim is that spending other people's money helps his focus because it makes him feel responsible. That's a plausible argument.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by dataangel on Saturday August 20, 2022 @12:48PM (#32533392)
The first thing you want to hear as an investor is that the person you're investing into has as much skin in the game as possible so opening up with "I'm putting other people's money in this instead of mine" is not great.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by xnx on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:21PM (#32527289)
He's not stll there
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by polio on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:41PM (#32527446)
Isn't he still there part-time?
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by xnx on Friday August 19, 2022 @11:48PM (#32528874)
Ah, thanks. Looks like he still consults for them, but probably not as an employee?
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by GaylordTuring on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:48PM (#32526983)
What was wrong about that?
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by zppln on Friday August 19, 2022 @07:59PM (#32527563)
What about his bet on MegaTextures?