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Re:Google Is Done on Thursday December 01, 2022 @11:46AM (#33818842)
>Do the economics of a gpt-as-a-search-engine work?

Davinci costs 2 cents for 1000 tokens (≈600 words), so no.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Thursday December 01, 2022 @04:23AM (#33814098)
Newsflash: There is no objective morality and racism is just as legitimate a political ideology as liberalism, autistic screeching of "secular" civil religionists regardless.
Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:29PM (#33810400)
>desegregation was actually bad

Yes, preventing freedom of association is actually bad.

But, of course, your goal is to force people with legitimate preferences for not associating with other groups of people to do your bidding.

And because of that you deserve and will get the boot.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:11PM (#33810123)
>This is about making people you don't like shut up.

People on the left like you don't get to make that argument. You have been shutting people up and preventing freedom of association since the 60s in the USA.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:20PM (#33808712)
It's also used to describe "no, you don't get to illegally immigrate to my country", "no, you don't get to have affirmative action preferences which you don't deserve" and "no, you don't get to force your morality on me".
Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:11PM (#33808582)
Please, continue to enlighten me with your secular theology, it's extremely entertaining. Almost like seeing a monkey trying to use a calculator while pretending it's the Hari Seldon of social determinism.

Are you sure you are not an illegitimate offspring of Fukuyama and a post-transition Henry Beecher?

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @03:47PM (#33807431)
Am I losing an argument when you are (at the very least) trying to draw a destiny-infused causality between the works of John Locke and trans-bathroom rights?

You don't have an argument, you have a Fukuyama-sized delusion infused with ridiculous secular theology that is about to pop in the next decades.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @03:23PM (#33807086)
And there you have it, the leftist view in its full insanity - it's not OK to "hate" other races but it's OK to kill non-marginalized whites.
Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @03:21PM (#33807066)
>I’d argue it’s a trend that’s gone on much longer

Please, do enlighten us how the first multi-cellular organism was literally the Whig view of history embodied. It will be very entertaining.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @12:59PM (#33804706)
Ah, yes, like the extreme position of being against affirmative action: https://www.thefire.org/news/ilya-shapiro-resigns-georgetown...
Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @12:35PM (#33804291)
> racists should find it hard to make friends and find employment.

It may surprise you but any form of social ostracism that is not government sanctioned will not achieve any of that regarding regular people. It will affect only celebrities and a segment of the public intellectuals. (But there will be a different segment that will benefit)

Regarding kanye west, his biggest problem was that a significant chunk of his "sponsors" (=board members of companies) and business partners were actually jewish. Had he said the same thing about Australian Aboriginals (or the same thing about jews but if his main market was East Asia), he'd be completely fine after the initial outrage subsided. So I don't think you actually understand anything about your example at all.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @12:01PM (#33803624)
>actions have consequences and you're being held accountable.

If there was no government-sanctioned affirmative action and if discrimination of the basis of race was not outlawed, all the consequences in the world would not change the fact that the "cancel culture whiners" (your own words) will rise in status (both social and economic) relative to minorities and liberals. So, yes - actions do have consequences, including for you.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @11:53AM (#33803503)
Extrapolating from a trend that has held in the West for a double-digit number of years to the entirety of the future of humanity is probably an extreme form of availability bias.
Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @11:52AM (#33803479)
>If someone is convinced that black people are inferior to white people, I want them to be afraid to express that.

Elaborate on how and why exactly you think they should be afraid.

Should they be afraid for their physical safety because you want violence against them to not be punishable (or the state to have to enact such violence by law)?

Should they be afraid for their freedom because you want hate speech laws instituted that would land them in jail?

Nobody is afraid to voice their opinion because of the disapproval of leftists and "liberals" so it should be one of the 2 above or something similar.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @09:01AM (#33800860)
The truth always seems like nonsense to those that hate it and/or stand to lose by it breaking free.
Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:54AM (#33800755)
It's bad faith when applied to a scientifically established, factual claims. Not when applied to the quasi-religious civil morality of the modern left.

"I'm just asking questions about why the Earth is round" is bad-faith.

"Im just asking questions about why we shouldn't implement Operation Wetback 2023 and forcefully deport all illegals, even if that costs a trillion dollars and involves tremendous amounts of violence" is not.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:52AM (#33800724)
>Would you enjoy to continue working when your boss badly wants to fire you, and your colleagues badly want to have you fired, but they can't by the law? How soon would you leave by yourself? Being fired usually at least involves some severance pay.

Most (all?) of continental Europe actually has such laws, which is why you don't hear about american style firings here. So, your logic has been tested in practice and found out to be wrong.

Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:43AM (#33800573)
The right of free association was already taken away the moment discrimination on the basis of race was outlawed. Find a better argument.
Re:Author warns about 'epidemic of self-censorship' on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:41AM (#33800561)
"There are absolutely things that people can write which they should be removed from their job for though"

No, there are not. Anything you say outside of your working time is not the business of your employer.

Re:Sequoia: Generative AI: A Creative New World on Monday November 28, 2022 @01:34PM (#33777547)
>we won't be able to tell whether where it came from anyway

You won't be able to if you look solely at the output. There are ways to check audit and verify the process by which said output was produced. They are also gamable but the cost of gaming them is not insignificant.

Re:Sequoia: Generative AI: A Creative New World on Monday November 28, 2022 @01:20PM (#33777318)
>The expectations they have for 2030 are frankly delusional.

Well, they do start with the delusional "copilot writes 40% of your code" microsoft marketing bullshit which everyone who has ever used it knows is not true, so it really is "garbage in, garbage out".

Re:Sequoia: Generative AI: A Creative New World on Monday November 28, 2022 @10:51AM (#33775088)
I generally want to see no ads. Why would I want personalized ones?
Re:We've filed a lawsuit against GitHub Copilot on Thursday November 03, 2022 @09:34PM (#33460608)
Idiotic sealioning having nothing to do with AI and neural nets.
Re:We've filed a lawsuit against GitHub Copilot on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:46PM (#33460196)
>So, why should an AI be treated different here? I don't understand the argument for this.

Because the AI is not a human and only humans have rights, including the right to learn.

Re:We've filed a lawsuit against GitHub Copilot on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:45PM (#33460188)
>where is that deep hatred of patent trolls

Is it patent trolling when you are defending your future labor from being made obsolete by megacorps and signularitarians using your past labor without permission?

No, it's justice.

Given a binary choice between unemployability and extending patent protection to (even) snippets of code, I am quite confident that 90+% of salaried developers today will chose the latter.
>Why would anyone (artists/programmers) spend their time doing something a machine can do

Why do humans play chess after 1997? Why do they play checkers after the 70s?

AI capability is destroying human enjoyment of activities because it also destroys the economic rationale for engaging in them and/or allows other humans to cheat.

The obvious conclusion of this position is that we should just all kill ourselves if strong AI ever starts to exists. No, thank you, I'd rather do everything possible to prevent it from being created.

There is no reason to legally treat humans and algorithms the same way. Only insane, moronic singularitarians claim otherwise.
>Even if we assume the above rule is made, there is no way to prove it because even if a human does it, he might still use the help of photoshop etc which are planning to integrate such tools currently.

It's unclear to what extend tool producers will support AI in this context at all. Also, this is a problem for safeguarding the integrity of the product of artists, not for safeguarding their income.

What's profoundly stupid is to assume every piece of technology is good so we should do nothing about its proliferation. Yes, we should ban low-code tools based on deep learning over "fairly used" (not) datasets and we should ban the same for music, writing, whatever. AI bros can go cry in the corner, I don't care.

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