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Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by xvedejas on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @10:57AM (#32413083)
I'm riding my bike a lot more to get places, rather than just for recreation; and it seems this is true for many around me as well.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by mirker on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:15AM (#32413361)
But when you think about it, what’s the benefit of driving? For reasonably short drives you don’t save much time with parking in cities and you don’t get any exercise.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by xvedejas on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:27AM (#32413585)
Ah, in my case this is mostly replacing buses, so really not the biggest monetary impact either. Still, I will try not to let the excuse to be more active go to waste.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by hn_go_brrrrr on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:25PM (#32414580)
Air conditioning
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by Kye on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @03:04PM (#32416923)
And shielding from the UV index 11 sun.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by edhelas on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:32PM (#32414693)
Damnit, don't tell the secret to car-people. We want our bicycle paths not too-overcrowded :p
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by ahoy on Thursday August 11, 2022 @09:51AM (#32425548)
Hah, speak for yourself! I want 20x as many bikes out there.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by floren on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @01:08PM (#32415326)
Your car is much less likely to be stolen while you're shopping?
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by r00fus on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @03:09PM (#32416974)
This is the answer. There's no equivalent of "grand theft auto" for bicycles, in fact... law enforcement simply doesn't care most of the time despite usage of things like AirTags or video evidence.

If bikes could park like cars and be safe, a lot more people would use bikes for errands. As it is I only use my bike (even my cheap one) when I can keep eyes on it from the store.

Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by jjav on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:15PM (#32417801)
Yes, exactly!

I live in an area where I can very easily and quickly bike to just about anything. But I never do because there's nowhere to store the bike while I'm there so it will get stolen. So I either walk (if I have the extra 15-20 minutes) or feel silly driving a mile or less. I'd rather bike.

Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by floren on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @05:28PM (#32418696)
The other day I saw somebody go past on a cargo bike, with a big box on the front that in this case had 3 child seats in it. It looked pretty damn usable, and if I could get something like that with an e-bike, even Costco trips (with the steep up-hill return) become feasible.

But if you buy a $5k electric cargo bike and it gets stolen two weeks later, or you have to spend 10 minutes finding a secure place for it everywhere you go...

Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by goodpoint on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:10PM (#32416181)
A bike is so much cheaper than a car that even if it gets stolen every 2 months you are still saving.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by BitwiseFool on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @03:37PM (#32417345)
I don't think this figure is accurate, but even so this isn't something I would want to accept - regardless of a convincing calculation that it is a net benefit.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by goodpoint on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @06:14PM (#32419092)
Just an example:

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/loans/auto-loans/total-co...

"For vehicles driven 15,000 miles a year, average car ownership costs were $9,666 a year, or $806 a month, in 2021, according to AAA"

VS https://bicycleuniverse.com/how-much-does-a-bike-cost/

So the figure is accurate.

Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by nradov on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @06:59PM (#32419503)
So what? The costs are kind of meaningless when you walk out of the grocery store with a cart full of frozen food, only to find your bike was stolen. Normal people aren't willing to tolerate that level of hassle and uncertainty just for the possibility of some minor cost savings.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by ununoctium87 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:29AM (#32413622)
Rain
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by kjkjadksj on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:31AM (#32413650)
Solved by rain coat and rain pants
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by SoftTalker on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:51PM (#32415016)
So you won't be wet from the rain, you'll be wet from your own sweat.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by sudosysgen on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:54PM (#32415081)
Modern rain gear is okay on that side but at great expense.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by switchbak on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:01PM (#32416064)
I ride like I'm getting paid for it, but that's just not really the case yet. Though it'll be amazing when some real innovation happens.

Even the highest end technical fabrics don't work very well when it's humid outside, which tends to happen a lot when it's raining.

If you're actually working hard, you'll be covered in your own sweat soon enough. Given the choice i usually just go with the rain instead.

Riding an ebike is a different matter, that's probably entirely doable with current tech.

Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by sudosysgen on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @05:08PM (#32418486)
What gear do you have? I use North Face futurelight and if I'm biking at reasonable to slower speeds I don't really sweat that much unless it's more than, say, 22C.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by andsoitis on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:58AM (#32414174)
In Amsterdam rain, cold does not deter cycling.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by p_j_w on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:53PM (#32415060)
The Dutch seem less interested in finding any excuse for their bad habits than we suburban Americans do.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by justinator on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:44AM (#32413923)
Ssssssh don't let the car manufacturers hear you or you might disappear under mysterious circumstances.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by collegeburner on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:54PM (#32415082)
avoiding the literally 105+ degree weather
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by ryukafalz on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:34AM (#32413711)
I’ve started riding a bike for transportation during the pandemic; I think the desire to get outdoors more turbocharged cycling during the pandemic, and now people are probably realizing it’s a good way to get around too. So maybe a combination of both.

In any case, I think that’s a good thing! The oil crisis of the 1970s was one of the contributing factors to the Netherlands getting their now-excellent bike infrastructure.

Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by Jalad on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:29AM (#32413605)
I'm planning on getting a bike to commute to work. I don't have a car right now and also don't really want to buy one because it's a huge expense. My only regret is that it's much harder to get groceries with a bike so I might end up walking instead for that.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by DubiousPusher on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:30PM (#32414662)
Yeah and don't forget that buying the car itself is just the start. Even if you don't get a loan you need to pay for registration, insurance, maintenance and gas.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by kjkjadksj on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:30AM (#32413635)
Just get panniers
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by ryukafalz on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:00PM (#32414203)
Or a bike trailer if you need to carry more. Some can detach and be used as a hand cart too, so perfect for grocery shopping!
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by wil421 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:16PM (#32414440)
I have a double kids trailer from Thule. Even with kids it has a ton of storage. It detaches easily and has 4 wheels. The shocks are also adjustable to make it easier on the kids with heavy loads.
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by Jalad on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @01:08PM (#32415324)
Yeah this might be a good idea. Haven't looked into it yet but I might end up doing something like this. A sibling comment mentions a trailer and I like that idea as well
Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by switchbak on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:25PM (#32416404)
I used to do that, trying to load anything reasonable on a bike makes it handle like serious crap. It jackknifes and good brakes become very important.

A trailer would probably be a lot better.

Re:U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5% by DubiousPusher on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:28PM (#32414617)
If possible, spending a few years without a car can be a great way to save a lot of money.