Re:Want to start hacking?
by braingenious on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @09:50AM
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I like how “having a computer science degree” counts as “zero knowledge” simply because this person didn’t know what XSS meant. Their definition of a newbie is… unsatisfying.
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Let's not even go into how the meaning of "hacking" or "hacker" was hijacked. :oldmanyellsatmoon:
I made my way into the coffee kitchen at work, and unplugged the power cords for all the coffee maker machines...instant productivity killer...making me haxor supr3m3!!! Kidding of course!
While i agree with you on the hijacking of the term, i do support more people getting involved with security and especially security awareness. The more, the merrier! So, overall its a good thing, even if it creates a little pain for folks who are more kung fu gurus of the hacking way. I think a more general term like "security practitioner" might be more apt...but headlines gonna be headlines, hence writers gonna jazz things up with "hacker". Then again, what do i know.
Re:Want to start hacking?
by markus_zhang on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:02AM
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Yeah I think the original definition retains somehow in the hobbyists communities.
Re:Want to start hacking?
by implements on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:37AM
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“Can you hack-up a noddy to sort out that file corruption?” - Early 90’s software house.
(Very rarely seen “noddy” used to describe an extremely rough throwaway utility program since then, though)
Re:Want to start hacking?
by yjftsjthsd-h on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:38AM
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I would say so, considering the website we're on;)
This happened 30 years ago, maybe it's time to get over it.
The former meaning is still prevalent and rising in use. Enough so that the story was confusing until I figured out which "hacking" they meant.
That's a bit strange given that we're on hacker news.
Ask a stranger in a motel what they think "Hacker News" is about though. I too prefer the original meaning of the term but it's clear which meaning has "won".
Re:Want to start hacking?
by downrightmike on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @06:42PM
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Does the dark moon howl?
Re:Want to start hacking?
by dj_mc_merlin on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:20AM
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"Having a CS degree" (or equiv. experience) is basically baseline knowledge floor for hacking. It's not possible to get someone with 0 computer skills in May 2021, and have them cracking bounties by 2022.
Re:Want to start hacking?
by WelcomeShorty on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:36AM
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One of our most prolific bug bounty hunters did exactly that. And what is even more impressive / exotic is how he finds the bugs. With "just" a browser and very little Burping.
Anecdotical, but it happens.
Honestly that sounds more like a problem with your code base rather than any exceptional skill.
Re:Want to start hacking?
by WelcomeShorty on Friday July 29, 2022 @02:03PM
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Hosting multiple 100's of internally build complex services tends to enlarge the attack space quite drastically.
Where I agree most bugs are self inflicted, there are plenty found in acquired software too.
Where may I read more about said person
Re:Want to start hacking?
by WelcomeShorty on Friday July 29, 2022 @01:59PM
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I am not at liberty to dox him :) Asked him but he pervers his relative anonymity.
Re:Want to start hacking?
by InfoSecErik on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:30AM
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Flat out untrue, I know a friend who started in the field out of high school and was getting DA in places before he could even drink.
EDIT: My bad, misread your comment.
What's DA?
Domain Admin. Total control of a Windows network, equivalent to having root on a Linux box.
Direct Access?