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Re:DALL·E now available in beta by xnx on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @01:18PM (#32169013)
I fully expect stock image sites to be swamped by DALL-E generated images that match popular terms (e.g. "business person shaking hands"). Generate the image for $0.15. Sell it for $1.00.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by thorum on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @02:07PM (#32169818)
DALLE images are still only 1024 px wide. Which has its uses, but I don’t think the stock photo industry is in real danger until someone figures out a better AI superresolution system that can produce larger and more detailed images.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by arecurrence on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @02:27PM (#32170109)
You can obtain any size by using the source image with the masking feature. Take the original and shift it then mask out part of the scene and re-run. Sort of like a patchwork quilt, it will build variations of the masked areas with each generation.

Once the API is released, this will be easier to do in a programmatic fashion.

Note: Depending on how many times you do this... I could see there being a continuity problem with the extremes of the image (eg: the far left has no knowledge of the far right). An alternative could be to scale the image down and mask the borders then later scale it back up to the desired resolution.

This scale and mask strategy also works well for images where part of the scene has been clipped that you want to include (EG: Part of a character's body outside the original image dimensions). Scale the image down, then mask the border region, and provide that to the generation step.

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by csteubs on Thursday July 21, 2022 @02:21AM (#32176374)
Another commenter mentioned Topaz AI upscaling, and Pixelmator has the "ML Super Resolution" feature; both work remarkably well IMO. There are a number of drop-in and system default resolution enhancement processes that work in a pinch, but the quality is lacking compared to the commercial solutions. There are still some areas where DALL-E 2 is lacking in realism, but anyone handy with photo editing tools could amend those shortcomings fairly quickly.

On-demand stock photo generation probably is the next step, particularly when combined with other free media services (Unsplash immediately comes to mind). Simply choose a "look" or base image, add contextual details, and out pops a 1 of 1 stock photo at a fraction of the cost of standard licensing. It'll be very exciting seeing what new products/services will make use of the DALL-E API, how and where they integrate with other APIs, use cases, value adds like upscaling and formatting, etc.

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by eigenvalue on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:40PM (#32171100)
I've been using this app to upscale the images to 4000x4000, and it works amazingly well (there is also a version for Android):

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/waifu2x/id1286485858

I paid extra to get the higher quality model using the in-app purchase option. It crushes the phone's battery life, but runs in only ~10 seconds on an iPhone 13 Pro for a single 1000x1000 input image.

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by ZeWaka on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:58PM (#32171344)
I mean, waifu2x and similar waifuxx libraries are free and open-source, there's really no reason to pay for it if you're working on a desktop.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by andybak on Thursday July 21, 2022 @02:58AM (#32176573)
Things have moved on a considerable amount since waifu2x

Try https://github.com/n00mkrad/cupscale

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by MrBra on Friday July 22, 2022 @03:41AM (#32189553)
I've recently updated waifu2x and I've seen it now supports lots of algorithms for different use cases and contexts and it also supports other tasks like frame interpolation. So could you briefly explain in what is cupscale better than it?
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by andybak on Friday July 22, 2022 @04:42AM (#32189907)
Cupscale supports multiple models tuned for different types of content (including Anime like waifu2x): https://upscale.wiki/wiki/Model_Database
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by MrBra on Saturday July 23, 2022 @12:50AM (#32200489)
As I said Waifu2x too supports many different models aimed at different content, so what's the big improvement with Cupscale?
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by andybak on Monday July 25, 2022 @02:50AM (#32221290)
Well in that case I might be wrong.

Considering waifu2x is the name of an algorithm I assumed it was just that algorithm. There's also no mention of other models on the demo page or the Github page as far as I can see.

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by MrBra on Sunday July 31, 2022 @04:25AM (#32294190)
My bad! Yes Waifu2x is just a single algorithm, you are right.

The confusion originates from the fact that I was using a GUI project for Waifu2x called "Waifu2x Extension GUI" (https://github.com/AaronFeng753/Waifu2x-Extension-GUI) which other than Waifu2x also supports other algorithms like Real-ESRGAN, Real-CUGAN, SRMD, RealSR, Anime4K, RIFE, IFRNet, CAIN, DAIN, and ACNet.

So as you said Cupscale is surely more advanced than Waifu2x (the single algorithm), but do you think it's also better than Waifu2x Extension GUI?

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by eigenvalue on Thursday July 21, 2022 @01:10PM (#32181939)
Thanks, that’s actually the “better” model that I referenced. You can buy it with an in-app purchase using the waifu2x app.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by andybak on Thursday July 21, 2022 @03:56PM (#32184119)
Buy what?
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by MrBra on Friday July 22, 2022 @03:37AM (#32189528)
I think he refers to the premium version of Waifu2x.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by eigenvalue on Thursday July 21, 2022 @01:11PM (#32181952)
Yes, but I usually find myself playing with this stuff when I have some free time and relaxing outside or on the couch, and it’s nice to be able to do it all on the phone.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by anhner on Thursday July 21, 2022 @02:51AM (#32176531)
what's a desktop? /s
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by nuclearsugar on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @07:18PM (#32173686)
DallE2 + Topaz Gigapixel AI works amazingly well.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by samstave on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @08:33PM (#32174323)
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by msoad on Thursday July 21, 2022 @02:55AM (#32176555)
Photoshop also has super resolution
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by wishfish on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @04:36PM (#32171936)
Makes me imagine stock image sites in the near future. Where your search term ("man looks angrily at a desktop computer") gets a generated image in addition to the usual list of stock photos.

Maybe it would be cheaper. I imagine it would one day. And maybe it would have a more liberal usage license.

At any rate, I look forward to this. And I look forward to the inevitable debates over which is better: AI generation or photographer.

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by smusamashah on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:17PM (#32170795)
They won't. DALL-E images are mostly not as high quality. The high quality stuff which everyone has been sharing is result of lots of cherry picking.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by speedgoose on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @04:16PM (#32171649)
In my experience it doesn’t require that much cherry picking if you use a carefully crafted prompt. For example: “ A professional photography of a software developer talking to a plastic duck on his desk, bright smooth lighting, f2.2, bokeh, Leica, corporate stock picture, highly detailed”

And this is the first picture I got: https://labs.openai.com/s/lSWOnxbHBYQAtli9CYlZGqcZ

It got it a bit strong on the depth of field and I don’t like the angle but I could iterate a few times and get a good one.

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by arecurrence on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @04:42PM (#32172032)
Additionally, wherever it classically falls over (such as currently for realistic human faces), there will be second pass models that both detect and replace all the faces with realistic ones. People are already using models that alter eyes to be life-like with excellent results (many of the dalle-2 ones appear somewhat dead atm).
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by smusamashah on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:26PM (#32172573)
Even this image is just an illusion of a perfect photo, which is a blur for most part, see the face of duck. I had access since past 4 5 days and it fails badly whenever I tried to create any unusual scene.

For the first few days when it was announced I use to look deep even in real photos in search of generative artifacts. They are not so difficult to spot now, most of the times anyway.

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by cornel_io on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @04:53PM (#32172176)
NB: when you share links like that, nobody who doesn't have access can see the results
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by alana314 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:00PM (#32172250)
sure they can, just tried in incognito
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by mkl on Thursday July 21, 2022 @08:45AM (#32178642)
I didn't even need incognito.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by commandlinefan on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:51PM (#32172899)
Even the high quality stuff still can't do human faces right.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by TomWhitwell on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @06:16PM (#32173139)
This one surprised me when it came out, felt more ‘human’ than lots of stock photos: https://labs.openai.com/s/AsRKFiOKJmmZrVDxIGa75sSA
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by optimalsolver on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:56PM (#32172960)
They avoided using real human faces in the training data.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by messe on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:46PM (#32171163)
If the price is low enough, you can have humans rank generated images (maybe using Mechanical Turk or a similar service), and from that ranking choose only the highest quality DALL-E generated images.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by Forge36 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @06:26PM (#32173218)
If someone can make money doing it they might.

Heck: If the cost to entry is prohibitively low they might do it at a loss and take over the site

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by andybak on Thursday July 21, 2022 @03:00AM (#32176582)
It's a lot better than you are claiming. Mind if I ask if you have access personally?
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by smusamashah on Friday July 22, 2022 @01:42PM (#32194848)
Yes I have. And I realized it as soon as I started experimenting that mind blowing results are mostly cherry picking.

It's very good at generating art style images. These kind of images are mostly amazing most of the times. But the Photorealistic images only work with cherry picking.

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by andybak on Friday July 22, 2022 @01:50PM (#32194965)
> And I realized it as soon as I started experimenting that mind blowing results are mostly cherry picking

Me and you must have very different definitions of "cherry picking". For prompts that fall within it's scope (i.e not something unusually complex or obscure) I get usable results probably 90% of the time.

Can you give me some examples of prompts that you tried where you found good results difficult to obtain?

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by smusamashah on Saturday July 23, 2022 @04:06PM (#32207106)
I get bad results on unusual prompts, you are right about that.

It did generate good dslr like face closeups, as good as Nvidia does, most of the times but not always. Sometimes there are weird artifacts and face does not make sense.

Dslr style blurry photos are mostly good. From the looks of images I follow, imagen is probably more believable. Don't know how much cherry picking goes on there. See this thread [1] for example. I failed to generate image like this (honey dress) in dalle2.

[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ImagenAI/comments/w3saku/creating_i...

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by nprateem on Thursday July 21, 2022 @03:21AM (#32176681)
Give it a few years. I'd be exiting if I owned a stock site
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by dylanlacom on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @01:57PM (#32169688)
Eh, I’d bet the arbitrage window is pretty brief, and that prices will fall closer to $0.15 pretty quickly.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by dymk on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @01:56PM (#32169670)
They'll likely immediately go out of business, because I can just pay OpenAI 15 cents directly for the exact same product.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by dx034 on Thursday July 21, 2022 @08:59AM (#32178768)
So what's the loss? It's not like stock photos are the highest art form. Surely, for some people it means they need to change their business model, but all those just needing pictures to illustrate something the process will be much smoother.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by ploppyploppy on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:06PM (#32170653)
"buy fo' a dollar, sell fa' two" - Prop. Joe
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by sogen on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @09:51PM (#32174848)
King stays the king!
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by redox99 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @02:04PM (#32169778)
DALL-E 2 isn't good enough for such photorealistic pictures with humans as of yet however.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by bpicolo on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @02:14PM (#32169913)
https://twitter.com/TobiasCornille/status/154972906039745331...

Unless I'm missing something, these seem pretty darn good

Re:DALL·E now available in beta by zerocrates on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @04:15PM (#32171631)
Woof, that bias "solution" that that thread is actually about though...!
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by arecurrence on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @02:28PM (#32170121)
There has been trouble with generating life-like eyes but a second pass with a model tuned around making realistic faces has been very successful at fixing that.
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by JulianaRestrepo on Thursday July 21, 2022 @12:23AM (#32175754)
remember DALL-E is not allowed to generate faces
Re:DALL·E now available in beta by andybak on Thursday July 21, 2022 @03:01AM (#32176589)
No longer true.