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Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by elzbardico on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:01PM (#31925030)
Don't complain when the rest of the world starts doing the same with American companies.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by gruturo on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:08PM (#31925114)
You just made OP's point. China is already doing exactly that.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by jeromegv on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:27PM (#31925330)
It’s not OP’s point at all. Americans want sovereignty over their own social media but gladly benefit from pushing Facebook and google dominance over the world. Big tech / Silicon Valley wouldn’t be the same if it would just be US only

It’s one way direction and it’s hypocrisy.

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by malandrew on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:54PM (#31925575)
There exists a policy that avoids hypocrisy: reciprocity.

Treat the EU companies the way the EU treats American companies and treat Chinese companies the way China treats American companies.

China doesn't give American social media companies access to China, so we shouldn't give Chinese social media companies access to America.

The EU imposes all sorts of privacy requirements and data locality restrictions on American companies. Impose those same restrictions but only on companies from the EU.

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by cmelbye on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:59PM (#31926766)
This doesn't make much sense. At the highest level, America imports more than it exports. I struggle to look at that and call it a one way street.

It's a simple case of reciprocity. If China wants to ban American social media networks then America should obviously respond in kind.

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by creato on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:04PM (#31925069)
At least in this case, China is already doing the same and worse, some reciprocal response is decades overdue. This is barely a start.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by mpalmer on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:40PM (#31925451)
Any company in any country that over-collects and/or misuses the personal information of its users (or anyone) should be penalized in the same way.

Where are the Americans claiming otherwise? It's perplexing to see all this shadowboxing with a made-up argument that we shouldn't hold FB to the same standard as Tiktok.

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by heavyset_go on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:27PM (#31925323)
Good. US dominance and oligopolies, at least in the tech sector, have stifled competition and innovation in the global economy. Everyone, including people in the US, would benefit from increased competition that monopolies have snuffed out for years, now.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:57PM (#31925609)
I encourage the rest of the world to do everything they can to weaken the grip of social media companies with >100M users. All companies that big, really.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by pretdl on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:03PM (#31925045)
You know that other countries do just that especially China.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by throwaway123989 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:17PM (#31925201)
What are the cases of such events?
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by npteljes on Thursday June 30, 2022 @07:02AM (#31930891)
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by throwaway123989 on Friday July 01, 2022 @04:46PM (#31952627)
None of these are banned. They simply choose to not operate in China, because the laws require them hand over user data. So they choose to monopolize those data themselves, which is allowed in US and so called "free" nations. Go figure how ridiculous that is.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by npteljes on Friday July 01, 2022 @06:14PM (#31953714)
Yes, some of those are banned. Banned means to prohibit, especially by legal means. These websites are not reachable from mainland China, so they are banned in mainland China.

Their operation wasn't suspended for a compliance reason. This article lists some of those, and their (suspected) reason for the ban:

https://www.businessinsider.com/major-us-tech-companies-bloc...

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by throwaway123989 on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:14PM (#32090373)
Then there are a lot of Chinese companies are banned from US market.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by npteljes on Saturday July 16, 2022 @04:34AM (#32116221)
What's your point?
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by throwaway123989 on Monday July 18, 2022 @01:11PM (#32140667)
The point is there is no moral high ground in economic competition.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by thisarticle on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @04:31PM (#31925377)
How many Google businesses operate in China?
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by pretdl on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:45PM (#31926089)
Banned in china: Google Gmail Google Play Google Maps Google Drive Google News Facebook Facebook Messenger Instagram Twitter Reddit Tumblr Pinterest WhatsApp Snapchat Slack Viber Line Discord Telegram Signal Wikipedia Dropbox OneDrive Blogger WordPress Medium Quora BBC The New York Times The Guardian The Washington Post Daily Mail CBC (Canada) ABC (Australia) Spotify SoundCloud Amazon Music Pandora Tinder Pornhub XVideos Chaturbate Twitch PlayStation Coinbase Binance
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by lucky1759 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:44PM (#31928533)
Plus NDR (Norddeutscher Rundfunk) the most absurd one I've found so far.
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Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by azemetre on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @08:31PM (#31927417)
You should edit your comment, it comes across as being in poor taste. There's this idea that people of one race have a very hard time seeing differences in other races:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-race_effect

Just because you can't tell the difference between a variety of women of one race doesn't mean they have no features.

The good news is that this effect is easily reversible (even being aware of it helps tremendously).

Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by robonerd on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:05PM (#31925706)
Dear Europeans; Please stop threatening that and start actually doing it. Please. Americans taking these American companies down a peg seems completely intractable. Please Europeans, you are the best hope we have. Ban American tech companies!
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by nivenkos on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:09PM (#31925736)
The EU is just an American puppet though - there is no investment or support for European alternatives or FOSS projects, etc.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by john_yaya on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @05:28PM (#31925933)
Huh? The EU’s GDP and population are significantly greater than the US.
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by yorwba on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:32PM (#31926504)
Re:FCC commissioner wants TikTok removed from app stores ove... by mwint on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @06:21PM (#31926403)
And yet Europe is more or less dependent on the US for defense. That’s probably the bigger lever.