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Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by StevePerkins on Thursday June 02, 2022 @02:57PM (#31599118)
This story makes me smile.

Back in the late-2000's, I worked at CNN on a 12-month contract. While there, I built a predecessor to the current "Breaking News" website banner.

At least at the time, Turner did not allow contractors to extend beyond the 12-month mark. So when my contract came up, they offered to convert me over to perm. I declined, because my interests lay more on the backend side of the tech stack, and my role there had been far more frontend-focused than I wanted for the long term.

Fast-forward 10 to 15 years, and I've had a lot of experiences that I'm very proud of. I've built concurrent systems that scaled to impressive levels of data. I've built event busses that moved hundreds of millions of dollars worth of financial transactions per year. Etc.

STILL, "my son built the Breaking News banner on cnn.com!" is the thing that my mom tells her friends. It's the only thing that my wife ever understood about what I do for a living.

There is such power in the visual, and in the consumer-side. In a very real sense, this silly thing was the crowning achievement of my career... and it was about two days of work and a few hundred lines of HTML and jQuery.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by brightball on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:03PM (#31599187)
Related, I've often thought a resume site like LinkedIn should include a "What does your mom tell her friends that you do?" section. :-)

It would probably be pretty entertaining.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by Karawebnetwork on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:10PM (#31599271)
Ask HN: "What does your parent(s) tell their friends that you do?"
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by IncRnd on Thursday June 02, 2022 @05:56PM (#31601020)
Thread created! I wonder what replies we will get?

Ask HN: What does your Mom tell people about your work or employment?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31601004

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by txbuck on Thursday June 02, 2022 @05:05PM (#31600499)
"I spend all day getting pissed at my machine for doing exactly what I told it to do."
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by baisq on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:33PM (#31599511)
"He spends all day on his computer"
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by symfoniq on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:53PM (#31599733)
My daughter used to think—and tell people—that her father "makes money."

Then one day I figured out that she thought I literally created paper currency at my day job.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Thursday June 02, 2022 @04:19PM (#31600023)
With the exception of my father I make more money than my entire extended family and partner's family. Doesn't stop them from striking a dismissive and disdainful tone when talking about my work.

Oh well. Whaddya gonna do.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by stereoradonc on Friday June 03, 2022 @08:17PM (#31615488)
Exactly what my mom (and sister) says.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by lostphilosopher on Thursday June 02, 2022 @04:23PM (#31600058)
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by gumby on Thursday June 02, 2022 @04:39PM (#31600221)
My mother, in her 80s, still complains that she can’t tell her friends what I do for a living. This is despite any number of press articles, selling companies and the like. She wants the classic Indian mother straightforward explanation (doctor, engineer, lawyer etc).
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by lupire on Thursday June 02, 2022 @10:13PM (#31603436)
Your profile says you are an engineer.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by jdhawk on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:08PM (#31599247)
this is an awesome idea. a newer title for an executive summary for less traditional companies.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by jedberg on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:05PM (#31599211)
I feel ya man. When I worked at reddit I did mostly backend, set up the entire AWS cloud deployment and the datacenter before that, ran the databases, etc.

But when someone asks what I did at reddit, the thing that gets the most interest is, "I made the thing that puts the link title in the URL".

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by greyskull on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:08PM (#31599254)
I always wondered why reddit decided to make that inextricable link. Any insight on why post titles aren't editable?

I thought maybe it's a database optimization, but it could also just be an unfortunate design decision.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by jedberg on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:18PM (#31599345)
We added titles to the URL for SEO purposes -- Google told us that search terms in URLs rank higher. That's why all the blogging software puts the post title in the URL.

Fun fact that, it's actually optional on reddit. You can put anything you want there and it will still work. These two are the same:

https://old.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/v3ae16/rantiwork_...

https://old.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/v3ae16/grayskull_...

The reason we made you unable to edit titles is to avoid the bait and switch. Getting a bunch of upvotes and then changing it. If you want to say, "well how about in the first five minutes" our counterargument was, "just delete the post and make a new one". It kept the software simpler.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by markstos on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:13PM (#31599306)
Besides technical reaosns, it could be to avoid bait-and-switch schemes, where a lot of engagement is built around one headline, and then it's changed to something with a completely different meaning.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by TwelveNights on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:18PM (#31599346)
I've always thought that Twitter adopted the same line of thinking, preventing tweets from being editable.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by jedberg on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:21PM (#31599385)
I think it twitter's case it was architectural. By treating tweets as immutable the could publish them on a pipeline and not worry about duplicate copies around the system being out of sync.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by mattnewton on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:32PM (#31599500)
That and early on it used sms as one of the interfaces, which is not editable.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by jedberg on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:35PM (#31599530)
They could always send another SMS with the edit. :)

But yes, that too. The whole system was designed around SMS which couldn't be "unsent".

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by fortran77 on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:27PM (#31599450)
It's to prevent tweeting "LIKE this if you like Ice Cream" and then editing it to say "LIKE this if you like pedophilia"

Nobody would ever Like/Retweet anything if it could be changed later.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by cultartawayyyi on Thursday June 02, 2022 @06:49PM (#31601558)
A lot of MVC sites do this - it's descriptive to both humans and robots.

If a URL ends with something like "/1234-content-goes-here", you can often shorten it to "/1234" and get a successful redirect.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by monksy on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:26PM (#31599434)
oh so you made the "reddit is down" page. :)

(Just kidding.. I appreciate your work and I've been using reddit for a long time)

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by jedberg on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:32PM (#31599501)
I did actually make one of them. :)

My favorite one was when we knew we had to take the site down for a few hours, so we made a page with curated content a-la-Slashdot where you couldn't vote or comment and it just stayed that way for a few hours. We just picked some of our favorite sites.

But we didn't warn the sites we were linking to and some of them got quite a shock with the sudden influx of traffic!

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by danillonunes on Thursday June 02, 2022 @04:46PM (#31600300)
"You broke reddit :("
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by disiplus on Thursday June 02, 2022 @05:05PM (#31600498)
i remember those days, reddit was a lot down, and you did a lot of maintenance in europe time, so i would be productive at work.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by jedberg on Thursday June 02, 2022 @06:09PM (#31601163)
Ha! Sorry bout that. We just did it at the lowest traffic times, and I'm a night owl.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by deckard1 on Thursday June 02, 2022 @04:08PM (#31599894)
> There is such power in the visual, and in the consumer-side.

This is, unfortunately, true with managers and execs. Do some backend thing, no one notices as long as the site doesn't go down. But do some flashy thing on the front-end, let's give so-and-so a promotion and a big bag of money. This is even true of tech companies where you would assume more tech-oriented managers exist. But sadly, no. They have to pitch your work to higher ups and the higher ups just have their eyes glazed over when they hear about databases and caching and transactions per second.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by westoque on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:32PM (#31599499)
Related. I also have a similar experience when I worked as a contractor for [big ecommerce] for simply building a JavaScript loader that loaded ads on their ecommerce platform using JSONP. That ad loader got millions of views and pretty much seen everytime you shopped online at the site and surprisingly that's what gets most people excited when I tell them about my experience thinking it's such a crowning achievement as well.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by xtracto on Thursday June 02, 2022 @06:59PM (#31601644)
I've got a similar proud moment. Back in the Flash days, I built the flash player skin for a starwars.com player that sat in their homepage for a while.

Since then, I've built way more complicated things I'm proud of. But nothing beats that during beer time with friends .

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by blahblarblar on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:52PM (#31599723)
Great example of how the market doesn’t really care about the how, just the what.
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Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by tpmx on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:14PM (#31599313)
That's for the web.

For TV, something like the software solutions listed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/broadcastengineering/comments/s6s7m...

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by spoils19 on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:36PM (#31599547)
Can anyone help me understand why this comment is being downvoted? As a community I thought we were well against over-use of JavaScript, and we should be calling it out as necessary.
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by StevePerkins on Thursday June 02, 2022 @03:54PM (#31599746)
I did not downvote this, but I would speculate that factors might include:

1. Poor reading comprehension (i.e. speaking in the present tense, about an implementation that's clearly described as a "predecessor" from 10-15 years ago?).

2. Unnecessary snark (i.e. one "is not surprised" that a web page used HTML and Javascript?).

3. The bizarre possibility that parent might be mistaking the website and the television broadcast, even though the original comment specifies "website banner". See factor #1 above.

4. You are grossly mistaken about there being an overwhelming consensus against Javascript? Or that snarky parent comment "calls it out" in an effective manner?

If I were to downvote, it would have been for #1.

Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by stevage on Thursday June 02, 2022 @06:30PM (#31601351)
Wait, you can dovnvote? The app I use only upvotes
Re:CNN cutting back on over-hyping everything as “breaking n... by sofixa on Thursday June 02, 2022 @06:44PM (#31601496)
Depends on your karma too, past certain amounts you can downvote, flag, vouch (anti-flag).