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Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by daterdots on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:23PM (#31262594)
I am concerned about the incredible concentration of money and resources into a few academic institutions. Obviously Stanford is an incredible school, but I am not sure Stanford will do more with $1B than 10 2nd tier schools would do with $100M each.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by supersync on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:31PM (#31262713)
This is a very fair concern. First off, most of this funding will go to a building. The rest will go mostly to an endowment.

The concentration of mega-gifts at the top has very perverse impacts.

Harvard built a $100M building a few years ago that is used by a total of 100 people a year.

Philanthropy combines prestige, PR, and “legacy” in a way that massively overvalued those three vs. any kind of measurable impact.

The alternative you are suggesting is badly, badly needed in the non-profit world.

But the “brand” game has won vs the execution game, esp. in higher Ed.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by codekilla on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:55PM (#31264422)
I worked in the Broad building at Caltech (Eli Broad), and I watched for 2 years as they demoed the parking lot outside my office to build the 200 million dollar Chen neuroscience building. It is a complete and total waste of money, and I say that cognizant of arguments like 'attracting talent'...etc. At one point we calculated the number of neuroscience postdocs we could hire for that money and easily came to the conclusion that we could have pulled off a Manhattan project of neuroscience with that kind of money. It's pathetic that donors delude themselves into thinking that projects like this do ANY good.

Edit: link: https://www.henselphelps.com/project/chen-neuroscience-resea...

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by metadat on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:44PM (#31266243)
Donor behavior such as this comes down to human psychology and neuroscience.

* Tribalism: Humans like people who "are like them", it's easier to relate. Thus, IME, Stanford grads prefer other Stanford-branded people. Or at least crême de la creme Ivy. Especially compared to the plebs and the proles.

* Vanity: Donors find it appealing that the structure will be around for a long time, prominently and proudly emblazoned with the donor's own name. Yes, external validation does feel good. Especially among certain (insecure) types. A truly altruistic and self-assured person makes donations anonymously.

Empire building is a popular pastime among the human species, especially those with power. The rest of us settle for something like Civ, SimCity, or sand castles.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by ransom1538 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:58PM (#31266397)
People should invest local. I just handed a check to our sons martial arts center. It is used for scholarships for kids that can't afford monthly dues. Every dollar is treasured.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by strikelaserclaw on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @09:49PM (#31268412)
Yea but it won’t raise your prestige, I mean giving charity to Stanford, one of the top schools in the world, shows everyone how baller you are, and maybe the next 20 generations of Doerrs will get guaranteed admission too
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by B1FF_PSUVM on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:55PM (#31266361)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_Pompey

Not the first by a long shot.

(Ahem, pyramids ...)

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by selimthegrim on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @04:01PM (#31265092)
I chuckled when they demolished the nearby Mead undergrad chem lab to make way for another such building, then I realized that the department graduating 5 undergrads a year might have something to do with it. I already missed the sculpture where the bagpipe guy used to play that got taken out for some ChemE building.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by bnralt on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:18PM (#31265998)
> easily came to the conclusion that we could have pulled off a Manhattan project of neuroscience with that kind of money.

In general I wish people spent more time looking at alternatives when these huge projects are proposed. For instance, it drives me nuts thinking of all the alternatives when I see making bids to pay billions for the Olympics. That's the kind of money that could turn the whole area into a science Mecca in several different, with a whole host of positive downstream effects locally.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by valarauko on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:07PM (#31264555)
wait, is the 200 million just for the building, or for the entire facility (new equipment, etc)? Building a new facility in itself seems a worthwhile enterprise - though as a postdoc myself I'd rather have pay bumps for the postdocs :)
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by codekilla on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:20PM (#31264688)
I believe at least 170 million was slated initially for construction costs, which may have run over. I don't know how much was for new equipment, but I can't imagine it was a significant fraction (and likely it was an additional expense over those numbers).
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by valarauko on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @04:06PM (#31265147)
170+ million for a BUILDING?! That doesn't make sense to me at all - as someone who spends his waking hours in research laboratories in a newish building of comparable size to the Chen building, I can't see where the money would go.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by codekilla on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:36PM (#31266150)
Well....for starters there is the monkey tunnel that leads from Broad to the Chen building because....you guessed it....the vivarium was in the basement (and still is) of Broad. Many neuroscience labs were in Broad (a VERY nice building in and of itself).
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by stanford_labrat on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:06PM (#31265853)
here's a guess, our fancy new stem cell research building has 3 pieces of chihuly glass about each about the size of a mini cooper...
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by devoutsalsa on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:12PM (#31263911)
John wanted his name on the Doerr.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by jayzalowitz on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:50PM (#31264355)
Words cannot describe, should have sent a poet.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by asciii on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:21PM (#31264700)
Ho Doerr?
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by Invictus0 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:43PM (#31262846)
> Harvard built a $100M building a few years ago that is used by a total of 100 people a year.

Which building is that? Not doubting you, just curious.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by ramesh31 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:44PM (#31264288)
>But the “brand” game has won vs the execution game, esp. in higher Ed.

I can remember seeing this in action at Stanford. Companies will fall over themselves and pay anything to have their name associated with absolutely anything that has the name Stanford on it. And the students know this, so they play the game. Every student group, organization, club, etc. no matter how small or meaningless is heavily sponsored by relevant corporate donors as a result.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by JacobThreeThree on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:43PM (#31266228)
>First off, most of this funding will go to a building. The rest will go mostly to an endowment.

Academic institutions are also tax-exempt, therefore don't pay any tax on the profits of any endowment or real-estate investment gains. The rise of the ivy-league schools becoming glorified tax-free holding companies, with education side-gigs, corresponds with the bloat in academic administration.

https://observer.com/2006/05/nyu-columbia-make-a-mint-on-rea...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/higher-ed-administrators-grow...

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by metadat on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @06:05PM (#31266464)
Stanford is really a real estate venture masquerading as an academic institution.

Why? For tax purposes.

Upon first hearing this I was shocked and disappointed. Over time I've lowered my hopes and expectations, and come to accept it for what it is:

Old, elite, uber-wealthy white men at the top, who want it to stay that way.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Stanford+president

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marc_Tessier-Lavigne_at...

References:

"The Stanford Empire", by Mercury News

> Stanford's vast holdings. Stanford, Silicon Valley's largest property owner, controls more than 5,000 acres in Palo Alto and unincorporated Santa Clara County. On that land are the university's sprawling campus, a shopping center, tech offices, apartment buildings and entire residential neighborhoods.

> The value of Stanford’s empire is larger than those of Google, Apple and Intel combined.

https://extras.mercurynews.com/whoowns/stanford.html

"How Stanford Came to Dominate the Landscape in Silicon Valley", by KQED

> The value of Stanford's real estate empire is greater than the holdings of Google, Apple and Cisco combined.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11781771/how-stanford-became-the-l...

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by rayiner on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:44PM (#31264277)
> First off, most of this funding will go to a building.

What a waste.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by geodel on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:31PM (#31264786)
Some time back I read a line in article "Government has deluded itself into thinking that building institutions is same as institution buildings"

This seems to apply here.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by metadat on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:47PM (#31266286)
Link?
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by lofatdairy on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:41PM (#31264871)
Upvoted because I agree but it's not always this cut and dry. I can't speak for climate research (I imagine it's mostly computer sims so maybe a building is a waste), but for bio research lab space is nearly as important as personnel.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by colechristensen on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:04PM (#31265834)
The waste is they hire architects to build elaborate buildings with plenty of affectations that make universities and donors feel important, but that often put functionality far behind form. While the inside of lab space is quite functional and "luxury" in lab space goes is actually lab equipment, sq. ft, and having a window that looks out on something pleasant. Much less impressive looking buildings could be built which facilitated far more science.

Universities have degenerated somewhat into being professional sports teams and professional fundraisers.

"Attracting top talent" is nonsense, universities are already full of people so desperate for positions they work nearly for free.

If I had a billion dollars I'd build a university out the best equipment, the cheapest buildings, and a minimum wage for anyone doing academic work of $100k and see how far that got me.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by acchow on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:30PM (#31266102)
> Harvard built a $100M building a few years ago that is used by a total of 100 people a year.

Which building is this?

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by jjulius on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:02PM (#31264499)
>First off, most of this funding will go to a building.

Gross.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by tshaddox on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:37PM (#31262784)
There's an old Malcolm Gladwell podcast where he interviews (and attempts to skewer) then President of Stanford University John L. Hennessy precisely on the topic of Stanford continuing to solicit donations and increase its ambitions despite having a very large amount of money. I actually think Gladwell's arguments are mostly ridiculous, especially his "accusation" that Hennessy is a "strong link" thinker. But the topic and the interview are interesting.

That podcast episode:

https://omny.fm/shows/revisionist-history/my-little-hundred-...

I found a partial transcript of the episode:

https://www.simonsays.ai/blog/my-little-hundred-million-with...

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by metacritic12 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @04:53PM (#31265731)
Is that true though? There's the idea of the 10x programmer, and from looking at academia, such thing as a 10x researcher as well.

In biology, the median 100th-ranked university professor is making incredibly incremental contributions (like applying a well known technique to the 300th gene). The average top university professor is making groundbreaking achievements.

I almost view it as the opposite -- if you gave the Watson and Crick lab (back in its heyday) $100, much more real impactful science would result compared to giving 100 me-too scientists $1.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by sfriedr on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @06:44PM (#31266833)
This comparison is misleading, because it is based on a wrong perspective of how research works:

In programming, if everyone would "just" be good enough, everyone could the elusive 10x programmer. In research, even if everyone would be the equivalent of the 10x programmer, there is simply often a lot of "boring" work to be done, such as what you dismissed as incredibly incremental contribution, to prepare the foundation for the next breakthrough. That means that "10x researchers" could, for various reasons including luck, end up in the 100th percentile because they have chosen a field that is not yet ready for a breakthrough (think, e.g. ML researchers slogging through the AI winter, wo didn't stick with ML until hardware became fast enough). Being the person making the groundbraking achievements means standing "on the shoulder of giants" as someone said a few centuries ago.

I wouldn't be surprised if today there are more "10x researchers" out there than there are breakthroughs waiting to be made.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by geoalchimista on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @06:18PM (#31266596)
With hindsight, yes. It is difficult to predict which field/researcher may become the 10x and which may not. Even an expert panel may have difficulty in judging the prospect of completely novel research. Giving funds only to 10x researchers is akin to investing in stocks that only go up; it sounds appealing, but in reality, how could a funder like NIH or NSF tell who is the 10x?
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by mupuff1234 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:35PM (#31266141)
But if we compare it to the stock market - it's almost always better to buy the index instead of picking individual stocks.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by namdnay on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:13PM (#31265925)
A good programmer doesn’t take suck their talent from other programmers around them. Giving so much to a handful of establishments sucks up the best researchers and projects
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by grinich on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:15PM (#31265941)
Or even better, Rosalind Franklin.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by ensan on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:35PM (#31262761)
Isn't there a tax deduction aspect to a lot of these donations?

Anyways, 100 more Nature-level articles about climate change is not going to change the situation if there is no political will (or if it seesaws every 4-8 years at best).

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by KMag on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @01:32PM (#31263461)
There are some loopholes with donations, mostly regarding difficult-to-value benefits and also around donating dificult-to-value things rather than cash, stocks, and/or bonds.

But, if you donate $1.1 billion to an eligible charity (and claim to have gotten nothing in return), then the US government basically pretends that you never made that money, and your tax bill goes down by roughly your marginal tax rate times the size of the donation. There are limits and caveats, but in general, it's a pretty fair treatment. I'm pretty sure big donors generally under-report the value of having their name on a building, etc. However, I believe it's nearly impossible to wind up with more money in your pocket post-tax by donating cash instead of keeping the cash. (I'm not an accountant. This isn't tax advice.)

I'm not saying you in particular are claiming people are donating cash out of greed, but the way I hear some people talk about tax write-offs is very misleading. It seems many Americans believe that donating $1.1 billion in cash can result in a $1.1 billion reduction in tax owed (assuming a marginal tax rate under 100%). Presumably, someone that wealthy gets their marginal tax rate down around the long-term capital gains rate, so they're probably getting about $165 million in tax reduction in exchange for that $1.1 billion donation. (Again, I'm not an accountant. This isn't tax advice.)

(Now, one could buy $1 million in art, get it appraised for $4 million, and if your marginal tax rate is under 25%, get more than $1 million knocked off your tax bill. Like I said, there are some loopholes in valuation, but not for cash and marketable securities.)

That being said, it would be nice to see something where getting your name on a building or an event in your honor would come with some automatic accounting assumption that the value of the publicity is worth at least 25% of the donation. If you want the full write-off, take your name off the building.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by wolverine876 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:07PM (#31263838)
> But, if you donate $1.1 billion to an eligible charity (and claim to have gotten nothing in return), then the US government basically pretends that you never made that money, and your tax bill goes down by roughly your marginal tax rate times the size of the donation. There are limits and caveats, but in general, it's a pretty fair treatment.

I think it's highly unfair in that it shifts decisions on social spending from the democratically made decisions of the people to a few wealthy individuals.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by whack on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:20PM (#31264016)
The US government gets $0.16B less that it can control in social spending. But in return, a regulated non-profit institution gets $1.1B more in its budget. That's a pretty good tradeoff for the social good.

For an alternative way of looking at things - almost any economist would tell you that it is wise to tax negative externalities and subsidize positive externalities. This is one of the most foundational insights from microeconomics. And charitable giving is the closest to an ideal positive externality that you will find. Person spends money to a cause because it makes him feel good to do so. That transaction ends up helping other 3rd parties as well. Textbook positive externality.

https://www.economicshelp.org/micro-economic-essays/marketfa...

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by wolverine876 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @07:45PM (#31267406)
> The US government gets $0.16B less that it can control in social spending. But in return, a regulated non-profit institution gets $1.1B more in its budget.

There's no reason to think the non-profit accomplishes anything or doesn't accomplish negative things. And there is an opportunity cost to the non-profit getting that money rather than, for example, schools.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by whack on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @11:04PM (#31268905)
> There's no reason to think the non-profit accomplishes anything or doesn't accomplish negative things

You could say the exact same thing about how the federal government spends its money.

> And there is an opportunity cost to the non-profit getting that money rather than, for example, schools.

There's also an opportunity cost to the government getting that money, rather than, for example, educational non-profits.

Overall, do I think the federal government would do more good with the same amount of money? Probably. But would the federal government do more good with $0.16B, as opposed to the non-profit sector with $1.1B? I highly doubt it.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by hpkuarg on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @04:57PM (#31265772)
> it shifts decisions on social spending from the democratically made decisions of the people to a few wealthy individuals.

To the degree that it's possible to amass wealth in this country without having to coerce people (a la crony capitalism), the money from those few wealthy individuals are a time-delayed, indirect sum of the democratically-made decisions of the people to spend their hard-earned dollars on the products and services those wealth individuals have offered.

Philosophically, it's not all that different from the people's will being indirectly expressed via their elected representatives in government.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by namdnay on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:18PM (#31265996)
And therefore we should just make the richest person the president, because he’s been elected democratically by our spending! Genius
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by vmception on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:24PM (#31264069)
This is very inaccurate.

I dont really know where to start.

There are circumstances where you cant get your name on a building from a donation, there are circumstances that circumvent that requirement. There are circumstances where there is no tax deduction because the donation already occurred from another non profit.

These wealthy people are going to run circles around the the general understanding for another 100 years. Bite the bullet and pay a nonprofit lawyer to understand whats possible.

There are things you can do with asset valuations it just isnt that relevant

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by KMag on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:44PM (#31264286)
To be clear, you're asserting that by donating $1.1 billion in cash, they're likely getting more than that sum multiplied by their marginal tax rate in tax reduction?

I'm honestly curious what the loopholes would be.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by acchow on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:47PM (#31266282)
Not a donation to a university.

However, rich people set up their own 501(c)(3) organizations to which they are boards of to get free flights, hotels, meals, etc from. Basically, instead of spending that money directly, they "spend" it via donations to their 501c3, and their 501c3 sends them on trips

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by vmception on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @06:39PM (#31266798)
much closer!

they donate to their own 501c3, and that 501c3 can donate to the next thing that makes the actual headlines. But the important thing for the conversations had here is that their own 501c3 can also invest and grow money. It can have lots and lots of capital firepower. When it uses that, there is no tax deduction for the owner. And in an article or headline, there is no information to extrapolate whether they were motivated by a tax deduction. thats my main point.

From my perspective, People are so desperate to find an issue with a large money movement that it is clouding their ability to understand what to even look at whether there is an abuse, advantage or not.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by vmception on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:48PM (#31264335)
To be clear, I'm not asserting that.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by vmception on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:34PM (#31264176)
Not necessarily

The flaw with this logic is assuming the money came from their personal balance sheet this year, as opposed to growing in a tax deferred or tax exempt account for decades already

Even Mackenzie Bezos’ donations are not giving her current year tax deductions (some additional ones could, its just not what she's been doing and she's been doing a lot and her methods are very common)

the understanding of what ultrawealthy are doing and why is very far from reality. I think its not productive to grasp for a tax/financial ulterior motive

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by jgalt212 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @01:28PM (#31263410)
Indeed.

It probably would have been much better to plant $1B worth of trees, or buy $1B of the Brazilian Rain Forest. But for similar reasons that Robert Moses loved bridges and hated tunnels, putting your name on a building at Stanford wins.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by wolverine876 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:05PM (#31263821)
> 100 more Nature-level articles about climate change is not going to change the situation if there is no political will

All the political will does nothing without research. We need both.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by aww_dang on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:41PM (#31264244)
Getting back to the above comment, then perhaps donating to a politically influential, ivy league school makes sense.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:27PM (#31262646)
> I am not sure Stanford will do more with $1B than 10 2nd tier schools would do with $100M each

Absent data, it's difficult to say. There are economies of scale, even if just in experience administering such projects.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by scythe on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:55PM (#31262988)
In order to have an economy of scale, first you need scale. But Stanford does not stand out in terms of the size of its faculty or enrollment, certainly not to the degree it does in terms of money. In fact, Stanford has fewer tenured faculty members (832) than UC Davis (1,126):

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/stanford-university/...

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-califo...

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by pmyteh on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @01:30PM (#31263430)
There are diseconomies of scale too. My experience is mostly of UK higher education, but my feeling is that most universities are a bit too large for their governing structures, and are poorly run as a result.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by zbrozek on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:35PM (#31262770)
I haven't checked the numbers lately, so I could be wrong by now. But while I was a student there and for some years after (administrators / (students + researchers + educators)) got worse at a rapid pace. It's hard for me to imagine that Stanford is the best marginal bang for more bucks.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by renewiltord on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:09PM (#31264581)
Well, there are 300 million of us. With $3 each, we could do what this guy did. So, fine, I'll have a friend give $5 on my behalf to a 2nd tier school. Your turn.

https://imgur.com/a/H6vEUsY

Post here when each of you who are concerned have shown your concern through your own action.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by suyash on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:06PM (#31264546)
Yes, even 10M for 100 Univ's and make Stanford one of them and then give more to which ever Univ makes most progress to the cause. One would think he would know how to hedge his money across since he is a VC.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by eevilspock on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @04:36PM (#31265518)
I read a great article about Catalytic Philanthropy many years ago. For the irony, I submitted a Stanford hosted copy to HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31265490

Read the first three paragraphs, and then you won't be able to stop.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by markdown on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:50PM (#31264964)
$100M to the University of the South Pacific would have a massive, massive impact.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by usrn on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:29PM (#31264135)
idk what exactly a "good school" is. I wasn't exactly impressed with the last set of lectures I watched from Stanford.
Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by TrackerFF on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:32PM (#31264793)
I think it's important to divide elite schools into undergrad and research.

During undergrad, the benefits are plenty. Brand name, excellent on-campus recruitment, bright and/or highly driven peer students, valuable networking opportunities, challenging coursework if you want it.

But with that said, taking Calc 1 at most elite schools isn't too different from taking calc 1 at some random school way down the (ranking) list. The syllabus will be the same, quality of your lecturer could go either way. At the undergrad level, there's really not much as far as "cutting edge" goes - after all, you're there to learn the fundamentals.

I'd say that it is at the research level that you'll start to see real payoffs. Mostly because these schools tend to attract top talent in the different fields, and have the funds to pay for them. And there's a pipeline between elite academia, and elite private (industry) research groups.

Re:Stanford gets $1.1B for new climate school from John Doerr by rgrieselhuber on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:01PM (#31263781)
It would be great to repurpose the majority of endowment funds to repay student loan debt.