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Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by Aeolun on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @08:31PM (#31187497)
I think most startups (at least originally) did start out as ‘change the world’. When you find out that changing the world is kinda hard, ‘become filthy rich’ starts to sound like a good alternative.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by heavyset_go on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @09:20PM (#31187802)
They'd be structured differently if they were truly about changing the world, instead of just being vehicles for wealth accumulation.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by salawat on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @10:57PM (#31188287)
Absolutely. And you'd see much less hypergrowth mindset, and a willingness to go slow, steady, and do it right.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by leaflets2 on Thursday April 28, 2022 @03:22PM (#31197030)
How would the structure change?
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by quantified on Thursday April 28, 2022 @12:38AM (#31188784)
Not a single professional investor does so on the basis of “change the world”. Maybe “create a monopolized market”, that’s a changed world.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by idontpost on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @08:53PM (#31187653)
You're just falling for the propaganda.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by Swizec on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @11:04PM (#31188325)
As a startup person, I like the startups where the spiel is “Get filthy rich by changing the world” the most. As long as I get to partake in the riches.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by heavyset_go on Thursday April 28, 2022 @12:43AM (#31188816)
I've had good rapport with those who are honest about their startups being businesses, as they're usually also the same types who understand that working for them is just a job, and that a job at a startup comes with its own risks, as well.

People that go out of their way to say that their startups have a higher mission make me uneasy. I don't know if they're just trying to convince others that they're running something other than for-profit businesses driven by expected returns on investment for investors, or if they truly believe it themselves. It's either borderline manipulation or delusion, and neither are something I want to hitch myself to.

Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by dotancohen on Thursday April 28, 2022 @01:47AM (#31189152)
I can think of a couple of companies whose public face represents "Get filthy rich by changing the world". Tesla, for one. Maybe SpaceX too.

Oh, no, that reads like I just turned into a Musk fanboy. Surely there's got to be some non-Musk company that I can add to that list?

Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by skissane on Thursday April 28, 2022 @07:05PM (#31199329)
> Surely there's got to be some non-Musk company that I can add to that list?

Biotech startups? Develop a cure for horrible disease X (save lives, give people a few more years with their families, etc–feels good?)–and then get rich selling that cure.

I think Blue Origin's messaging is in principle similar to SpaceX (Bezos wants to save the environment by moving manufacturing to orbit, etc.) It is just that SpaceX rather obviously delivers on that message, and has grown rich delivering; Blue Origin hasn't delivered much yet, and it is hard to grow rich prior to delivery–but maybe, give them a few more years, they'll finally get their act together, and they'll become more SpaceX-like.

Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by mushbino on Thursday April 28, 2022 @02:11AM (#31189237)
It seems to be the case that if you give someone a bunch of money, they'll stop wanting to change the world for the better. There are thousands of billionaires who could each end hunger and homelessness but have chosen not to.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by simonh on Thursday April 28, 2022 @02:42AM (#31189410)
The resources available to nation states dwarf those of billionaires, and it’s they’re specific actual job to do it, yet they too have failed to end hunger and homelessness. Bill Gates has sunk untold billions into humanitarian aid and its a drop in the ocean.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by NoGravitas on Thursday April 28, 2022 @10:42AM (#31193059)
Eventually, you start looking into why the governments fail to end hunger and homelessness. Then, people start calling you a tankie.
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by simonh on Thursday April 28, 2022 @12:30PM (#31194622)
Because hunger and homeless ness were of course unknown under Stalinism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_...

Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by mushbino on Thursday April 28, 2022 @09:14PM (#31200225)
I'm not seeing anything about homelessness in the article you linked to. Just for perspective, here's the opposite side of the coin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist_mass_killings
Re:Report: 90% of nurses considering leaving the profession ... by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday April 28, 2022 @12:09AM (#31188630)
As a regular person, I like startups where the spiel is "Have a fabulous life and be pretty comfortable while doing things that even after some serious devil's advocacy seem as if they might make the world a better place".