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Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by lapetitejort on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @03:36PM (#30702989)
If you're a dummy like me, 25 bps means 0.25%.
Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by mywittyname on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @03:41PM (#30703069)
Percent-of-a-percent is how I remember it.

More technically, a hundredth of a percentage point.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by analyst74 on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:41PM (#30703802)
Current rate, which is nearly 0, is also an important consideration.

What this means is if you borrow at 0.25% interest rate yesterday, and it becomes 0.5% tomorrow, your cost of borrowing just doubled.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by nimbius on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @03:52PM (#30703216)
imo this has been a comically glacial effort, and im not sure the feds 1.9% interest target by EOY is anywhere near aggressive enough to stave off 10% or greater inflation by Q4. What i really think are needed --Clinton era 4-5% rates-- are all but taboo to the market post-housing-collapse. nearly a year ago the fed was cheerleading "transient" inflation in an attempt to avoid culpability for the corporate credit bubble it created during 2008's post financial meltdown. the article is pretty fixative about 2018 but IMO this goes a long way back. Quantitative easing measures from from 2010 lke low credit and bond buyback were still going on in 2021. The coming to jesus moment for the fed that july bond buyback cessation targets would be a disaster was likely the 2021 holiday shopping slump, and we didnt start honestly talking about raising prime interest until febuary.

the reason 1.9%, and the reason this is a desperate tightrope, is that the fed has the very real ability to blow up the corporate credit bubble with prime interest.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by throw0101a on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @03:57PM (#30703280)
> imo this has been a comically glacial effort, and im not sure the feds 1.9% interest target by EOY is anywhere near aggressive enough to stave off 10% or greater inflation by Q4.

How much of the current inflation has anything to do with interest rates? You think oil/gas prices will care much about the Fed's action?

And we still have supply chain issue before all geopolitical problems even started: just try asking network vendors what their lead times are for switches and routers.

For consumers, Ford is shipping cars with missing functionality:

* https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/03/ford-ships-explorers-mi...

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by rndphs on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:08PM (#30703394)
The amount of money being circulated absolutely does affect inflation (almost by definition). The Fed interest rate affects the amount of money in circulation because the Fed credit money is simply printed. This printed credit money gets spent and ends up circulating. The lower the interest rate, the easier it is to borrow, the more borrowing gets done, the more money is printed and enters circulation, which leads to inflation.

Theoretically, the money needs to be paid back eventually. But as long as the Fed interest rate is below inflation, paying back can always be put off by covering the previous debt with new debt.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by throw0101a on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:35PM (#30703724)
> The amount of money being circulated absolutely does affect inflation (almost by definition).

No, money supply ≠ inflation. E.g., Japan M2:

* https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MYAGM2JPM189S

Japan inflation:

* https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FPCPITOTLZGJPN

Why do Friedman-esqe Monetarists continue to ignore velocity?

* https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V

I personally like Cullen Roche's analogy:

> But this is what so much of the money supply represents – money that has been issued and is just sitting around unused. Why is this useful? It’s like calculating your weight changes by counting how much food you have in your refrigerator. No. That’s potential calories consumed and potential weight gain. The amount of food in your fridge tells you little about your future weight changes just like the amount of money in the economy tells us little about the actual price changes in the economy.

* https://www.pragcap.com/three-things-i-think-i-think-i-see-d...

> The Fed interest rate affects the amount of money in circulation because the Fed credit money is simply printed. This printed credit money gets spent and ends up circulating. The lower the interest rate, the easier it is to borrow, the more borrowing gets done, the more money is printed and enters circulation, which leads to inflation.

Things do not work like this. Money gets created through private banks by credit creation, and the only limit on that is the the risk they see in their loans being defaulted on. The Bank of England put out a primer a few years ago:

> The reality of how money is created today differs from the description found in some economics textbooks:  Rather than banks receiving deposits when households save and then lending them out, bank lending creates deposits. In normal times, the central bank does not fix the amount of money in circulation, nor is central bank money ‘multiplied up’ into more loans and deposits.

* https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/quarterly-bulletin/2014/q1/m...

Roche again from a 2011 paper, "Understanding the Modern Monetary System":

* https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1905625

Banks create (hopefully) viable loans first, and then look for reserves after—assuming reserve requirements even exist, as many countries removed them decades ago.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by boppo1 on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @05:06PM (#30704097)
Sure, but if the interest rate is lowered arbitrarily rather than based on some market function, don't unworthy businesses get loans? Seems like we sacrificed efficiency and price discovery to keep employment numbers high.
Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by syshum on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @05:46PM (#30704546)
This is the thing, the entire fiat currency system will at some point likely be recorded in history as the largest fraud ever perpetuated in civilization.

Moves like removing reserves completely just move us further over the ledge into the clear ponzi scheme that it is

If any private actor attempted to do what central banks do, they would be rightfully jailed. We should not allow central banks to do things private actors can not do

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by tryptophan on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:00PM (#30703317)
It has everything to do with it.

If they were higher, people would go bankrupt, not have money to drive, use less gas/oil, thus reducing demand, thus reducing price, thus reducing inflation.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by colinmhayes on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:05PM (#30703365)
It certainly does not have everything to do with it. The answer is somewhere in the middle. Cheap money absolutely causes inflation, but so do global supply chain breakdowns.
Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by mindslight on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:16PM (#30703486)
IMO rather than talking about ambiguous "inflation", one should be specific about what exactly is being inflated - "monetary inflation", "asset inflation", "price inflation", etc. Monetary inflation occurred when the Fed printed several trillions of dollars back in 2020, asset inflation occurred soon thereafter, and then price inflation took hold throughout 2021 as that new money trickled into consumers' hands.

It doesn't particularly make sense to call the current rising oil price inflation (that would make "inflation" just a synonym for price increases), but the price of energy going up will cause broad price inflation down the line.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by colinmhayes on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:37PM (#30703754)
Unless I know I'm talking to an economist I use inflation to mean price inflation, because that's what every non economist thinks it means. You are certainly right that it's ambiguous in a technical sense though.
Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by chasd00 on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @05:43PM (#30704501)
> but so do global supply chain breakdowns

i would believe supply chain issues were major contributors to inflation if wages were not rising. It seems to me a supply chain problem causes price to go up but wages would not. The price increase by the retailer is there to pay for their price increase to the wholesaler, not to increase employee wages.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by posnet on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:10PM (#30703407)
Yes, but have they tried raising interest rates, and kill all the poor people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO_yg

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by HWR_14 on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:12PM (#30703437)
> How much of the current inflation has anything to do with interest rates? You think oil/gas prices will care much about the Fed's action?

Yes. Oil/Gas prices are pretty determined by OPEC voting and production of their member countries in conjunction with other macroeconomic issues. OPEC adjusts their production to take into account macroeconomic factors. The Fed rate is one of those issues.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by syshum on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @05:42PM (#30704494)
Alot... the only reason why a middle class family can afford that new $80,000 F150 is because 0% financing over 7-8 years.

Supply chain issues are being exacerbated by "free money" from the fed...

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by fundad on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @05:18PM (#30704222)
Hiring back 10 million laid-off workers is expensive and consumers are paying the bill. The problem is wage growth at the bottom is the last thing elites want.
Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by hgomersall on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:01PM (#30703324)
It might possibly have an effect, in the same way that anything that causes more unemployment and increases the likelihood of a recession might have an effect.
Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by latchkey on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @05:10PM (#30704144)
I run several datacenters. Switches are impossible to find right now.
Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by trelane on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @03:52PM (#30703210)
Technically, it does not, raising 0.25% is always in relation to the existing value of the thing, so increasing a percentage by a quarter of a percent would mean increasing it by a quarter of a percent of its existing value.

On the other hand, "basis percentage points" means something absolute, not relative to the existing level.

Pedant out. :)

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by monktastic1 on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:20PM (#30703523)
The claim wasn't that "raising by 25 bps" should be interpreted the same as "raising by .25%", it was:

> 25 bps means 0.25%.

In a sense, that is technically correct: it does refer to .25% -- not of the current value but of the 100% value.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by dmurray on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:28PM (#30703627)
While we're at it, we should remember that this isn't a unitless number although it's often confused for one.

Interest rates are being raised by .25% per year.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by HWR_14 on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @04:09PM (#30703397)
Pedantry is useless.

It's very useful to know the difference between the two. It's similar to many other things where there are two concepts that people conflate into one word and then spend a long time complaining or creating humor about confusing the results.

Re:US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for first time s... by trelane on Wednesday March 16, 2022 @03:53PM (#30703225)
Obligatory Jayne: "let's see... A quarter percent of nothing, carry the nothing, is.. nothing!"