Extreme confidence, and conspiratorial thinking ("nobody wants to hear this secret knowledge I have") should downweight the likelihood of the claims, because given no actual clues to go on, they are indications that the claims are spread by such deceptions.
What on EARTH do you eat to hit those macros? If I eat the minimum healthy calories (1,500) entirely in broccoli, I’d be >50g of protein (~0.6 g/kg at 160lbs). What kind of meal plan gets you low net carbs AND low protein? Are you drinking olive oil or something?
But yes. To answer your question, you do eat a lot of food that is 100% fat or darn close. You will see menus like "2 eggs and 2 tablespoons of butter". The vegetarian version will involve a lot of avocados and coconut oil. You don't have to eat it straight, and most meals involve combining a massive amount of fat with a small amount of protein or fiber or something.
You're right though, I think vegetables have more protein than people are led to believe, especially since the health/fitness industry make it seem like you need to be ever vigilant in getting your protein numbers up. Meanwhile, the average American accidentally eats far more than they need and certainly doesn't need to resort to supplementation.
Broccoli has only 3 grams of protein per 100g (and 7 of carbs), I don't think it is particularly high, and 1500 calories of broccoli would mean eating more than 4 kg of it.
It seems that health span and lifespan are not the same goal. Maintaining muscle mass is good, even great, to a point. Especially for the eldery who need to prevent falls.
But the process that helps us grow muscles (IGF-1/mTor) is also the same pathways that makes us grow cancer.
Low protein intake is both correlated in large population studies with longevity. It's also seen in animal studies as well.
High protein is great for reproductive health, glowing skin, building muscle, hell - probably even mood and cognition.
I think to do something really accurate nutrition wise would cost way too much money and take too long, so it mostly doesn't get done well.
So unless you do something specific with faith practice communities that are good about their strict diets and fasting, like Buddhist monks, there probably isn't much good research data for that in the first place. And then that has issues with controlling for other things, like meditating a lot, etc.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6612215/
Its pretty well know mtor/igf-1 stimulates growth. All growth. This is great for youth. Not so much for aging.
"Studies on autophagy-deficient mouse models indicate that the basal levels of autophagy can suppress tumor formation at the initiation of tumor development." - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6274804/
Cutting carbs that much would mean you’re getting virtually all your calories from fat. Most natural sources of fats (nuts, meat, milk) also pack in protein, and you’d quickly be over 0.5g/kg. The only other option is chugging grease.
Not sure how a high exercise, no protein, frequent fasting diet is going to work. It sounds worse than a North Korean laborer’s lifestyle.
Can't die of cancer if you die of malnutrition first!
Following this Internet persons advice, I would literally end up in the hospital due to malnutrition / low body weight in 6-12 months.
That's a BMI > 35. That's morbidly obese. Why would you want to maintain that?
Could you provide:
1. What you eat in a day to hit those macros.
2. something to support your claims.
If you can take one of those elements out of the cycle, you break the cycle. Those cultures stop the cycle (or more accurately, don't start it, although that's changing with time as the SAD diet takes over the globe). It's just not that sugar has to be bad, or carbohydrates are always bad, but if you were raised over-eating sugar and have PUFA related inflammation, they aren't going to help you lose weight or feel better.
At the end of the day, some people just think it's all about "calories in and calories out" but it's a rather myopic look on it. At some point we need to look at the type of calories people are consuming (starting a a young age and as they get older) and try to understand that different foods and different impacts to the body and its hormones (like insulin) and that the typical standard American diet loaded with sugar, no fiber and shitty oil (causing inflamation, which causes blood sugar spikes) are causing metabolic issues and putting a ton of people into a broken state ("metabolic syndrome").
The best of all worlds as far as quality of life is fluctuating between periods of high growths & high autophagy (repair).
I agree with all your points other than:
>But no one wants to hear they should scale back protein intake to 0.5/g per kg of body weight or less. (which basically means being mostly vegetarian or vegan, with some exception)
The healthiest people I've observed anywhere eat high protein diets, but balance it with fasting.
It won't make you live longer, but it will feel like it.
Then you should have no problem linking to it.
Is there a high incidence of cancer in body builders? Recommended protein intake for people who work out is 150g+ protein per day.
There is really no one diet that will work for all people. People need to learn to customize their diet for their own needs.
What evidence do you have for the claim that such a diet would work against cancer?
If the former, yeah, I'm not paying that much attention to all of that.
If it's the latter and it will keep me from dying, yeah, I'll make some changes.
fat probavly being the least bad as long as you stick to monosaturated, saturated (not in excess) and omega3s.
If Im exercising 5-6x a week and I can't eat much protein I need calories from somewhere.
You're not going to get the same level of protein from kale as you would from a chicken breast. You'd eat so much kale you'd be sick.
Secondly, plant proteins have incomplete amino acid profiles and won't stimulate mtor the say protein from meat and dairy will.
I’m not saying people find it hard; I literally can’t think of 3 foods that are both low net-carb and low protein-per-calorie.
Olive oil & butter are the two I’ve come up with so far. Any others you can think of?
ETA: someone else suggested avocados too. Any others?
You can graze constantly on plain intact produce and you won't get fat.
Only things like potatoes are truly high carb.
But no one wants to hear they should scale back protein intake to 0.5/g per kg of body weight or less. (which basically means being mostly vegetarian or vegan, with some exception)
No one wants to hear they should be exercising 5-6 days a week
No one wants to hear that you should be having 20g-150g of net carbs a day and thus doing without bread, pasta, cereals, and reducing starchy veggies.
No one wants to hear that they should fast semi-regularly
No one wants to hear we shouldn't be eating 3 meals a day plus snacks once we're past growing age.
No one wants to be uncomfortable.