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Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by Softcadbury on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @04:24AM (#30344362)
Guys, you learned nothing ! You are the top comment on HN, you should share the link to your project :)
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by raverbashing on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @04:33AM (#30344414)
Remember the ABCs

A - Always

B - Be

C - Selling

That is, seize the opportunities of presenting your work and your company.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by eej71 on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @05:25AM (#30344760)
I'll be that guy. Actually it's Always Be Closing.

Obligatory Glenngary Glen Ross scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7y6EOGY87U&t=104s

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by marginalia_nu on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @06:18AM (#30345113)
It actually depends on if you are using ecclesiastical marketing mnemonics (soft c like in contemporary Italian marketing) or reconstructed classical marketing mnemonics (hard c).
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by roofone on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @07:23AM (#30345521)
Esoteric Latin joke? HN rules.

I find hard c marketing is still more effective in US post/pandemic economy.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by marginalia_nu on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @07:28AM (#30345570)
Latin makes for some exceptionally esoteric jokes. This, to date, ranks among the funniest shit I have seen on the Internet: https://imgur.com/pztVEyh

I'm sure there are dozens of people who agree.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by swalsh on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @07:40AM (#30345678)
Depends on your product. If you're radio shack, sure, always be closing. If you're selling me an essential component of my business, and I expect to have a long term relationship with you... concentrate on the relationship and trust.

I worked for a small startup that won a HUGE contract because the big guy stopped supporting them to their satisfaction. We twisted over backwards to support their needs and they liked that.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by exogenousdata on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:08AM (#30346581)
Agreed with the sentiment that there are different kinds of clients/opportunities and sales cycles. However the idea specifically in ABC is the 'close'. 'Closing' is the act of securing payment from an entity. I've seen a lot of 'sales guys' who talk about how hard they're selling. But ultimately getting the money into your bank account is the real goal. Everything else is derivative.
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by jes on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:49AM (#30347125)
Loosely quoting Eli Goldratt, "Until the money is in your bank account and there is no possibility of having to refund it to the customer, you have not made the sale."
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by willhinsa on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @10:08AM (#30347421)
That's literally a plot point in Glengarry Glen Ross. Al Pacino made a sale the night before, but the buyer gets cold feet and wants to back out!
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by mooreds on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:58AM (#30347253)
Hah, we're living that right now. Big guy got bought, raised prices and removed features. Previously happy customers start looking around, find us (and others, of course).

Over the top support and flexibility are things smallcos can offer to outcompete bigcos with more $$$ and people.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by nkrisc on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @07:02AM (#30345363)
Of course, but it’s funnier and more memorable when it’s wrong.
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by bentobean on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @07:34AM (#30345611)
Actually, it’s “Always be cobbling.”

https://youtu.be/J_vSirIJEsY

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by marcosdumay on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @08:43AM (#30346263)
It's a usual joke, based on the fact that "always be closing" is horrible advice.
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by sanedigital on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:47AM (#30347107)
It's not. It's a reminder that all of your sales and marketing efforts are wasted if you're not actually pushing towards a sale. Calls to action, follow ups, using funnels—all of these are things that increase an individual's likelihood to close. That's "ABC".
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by marcosdumay on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @12:46PM (#30349952)
Try to close too early and any sensible customer will run away and never talk to you again.

"Always" be closing includes too early as well as too late, after the client has run away and you will gain nothing except to alienate him further.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by sanedigital on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @11:59AM (#30362428)
Yes, a three-letter acronym is incapable of expressing every nuance of a complex interpersonal dance. ABC is about sales and marketing driving towards the close. It doesn't mean you turn a cold call into "Hi, my name is James, buy my product. This is what it does. Buy it. Do you want to know more? Buy it first."
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by ethbr0 on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:52AM (#30347176)
It's "closing" because, from memory, they're selling junk real estate. In the US, the end of a real estate transaction is called closing, beyond which it's (mostly) irrevocable.

Hence Baldwin is effectively saying "get to the end of the transaction."

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by raverbashing on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @05:49AM (#30344918)
Yes ;) But in the context, selling makes more sense than closing.
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by faeyanpiraat on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @05:33AM (#30344813)
Watch it from the beginning, its great
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by themanmaran on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @10:27AM (#30347681)
Noo! And it's too late to edit the comment.

https://rysolv.com/

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by dang on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @10:32AM (#30347773)
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