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Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by nikanj on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:00PM (#30314243)
Fortunately Delta can fix this with a single ”Dear members”-email. The skymiles-to-travel conversion rate is completely arbitrary, and points can be devalued simply by adjusting the amounts needed for various services
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by tasha0663 on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:06PM (#30314297)
We're pleased to announce these exciting new options for redeeming your skymiles!
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by tommiegannert on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:15PM (#30314387)
Tangentially related: I just got a letter from my Visa card supplier here in Switzerland saying they've changed the Priority Pass (airport lounges) benefit to be unlimited. Previously it was only four free visits per year. I thought for sure they would make it worse when I opened it, but I guess last year was a great time to re-negotiate group discounts for travel.
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by MattGaiser on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:18PM (#30314412)
Credit card signup bonuses are also getting more aggressive in general.

Many of them are at or near record all time highs.

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by lotsofpulp on Saturday February 12, 2022 @01:28PM (#30314991)
I think chase sapphire reserve was the peak at $1,500 bonus (assuming you were already going to travel) in exchange a $450 fee, but that was offset by $100 global entry credit and a few other benefits, so it was close to $1,500 free for many people I know. I know my wife and I got it, and it was basically $3k for free.

It was so costly that Chase had to list mention it specifically in their 10-K and I believe all the other banks looked and it and said no way are we spending that much.

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by mym1990 on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:28PM (#30314494)
Are they more aggressive in a dollar converted reward or just the # of points?
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by MattGaiser on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:48PM (#30314676)
Dollar converted reward. I regularly get 12-15 new credit cards a year and communities of people doing that (churners) are well attuned to the tricks used to reduce the real value.
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by ceejayoz on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:35PM (#30314558)
Number of points.

Since the best value is usually transferring points into airlines, they let others be the bad guy.

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by konschubert on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:32PM (#30314528)
It’s a race to the bottom with increasing fees and awards. That business needs to be regulated or better disrupted.
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by freemint on Saturday February 12, 2022 @02:20PM (#30315456)
I don't see what you are talking about in Europe.
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by paulcole on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:21PM (#30314428)
What’s the best one you know of right now?
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by CrazedGeek on Saturday February 12, 2022 @01:55PM (#30315236)
The Resy Amex Gold and Platinum offers are really nice: https://resy.com/amex-offers . Same as the regular midgrade Amex offers (between $750 and $2500 worth of points, depending on card and what you value MR points at), but also, 10x points on restaurants on the Platinum for the first six months (up to $25k spend), and 20% back on restaurants on the Gold for the first year (up to $1250 spend).
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by csdvrx on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:35PM (#30314563)
The Capital One mastercard, $200 cash, no fee, minimal payments for 1.5 year at 0% (ideal to take advantage of inflation), various warranties thrown in for rentals etc

https://money.slickdeals.net/credit-score/capital-one-quicks...

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by ceejayoz on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:47PM (#30314673)
There’s way better out there.

Citi’s Premier just had a $800 signup bonus for a $95 annual fee. Easy money. Lots of these out there.

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by csdvrx on Saturday February 12, 2022 @02:25PM (#30315499)
I could only find references to gift cards, not cash bonus.

Funny thing is I considered citi recently, but figured out it wasn't worth it. I ended up with capital one.

Now if you can recommend Visa cards with cash signup bonus, I'm still looking for one :)

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by ceejayoz on Saturday February 12, 2022 @03:33PM (#30316107)
Citi’s ThankYou points can be redeemed for statement credit or bank deposit. With the right mix of cards it comes back at one cent per point.
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by alex_sikora on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:27PM (#30314486)
Depends on what you're looking for, cash back, hotel or airline miles. Here's a great list of the best sign up bonuses right now.

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/best-current-credit-card-sign...

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by Spooky23 on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:41PM (#30314613)
Maybe.

Remember everyone gets it, so the lounge may be full of screaming kids and mooches pillaging napkins and ketchup!

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by cmurf on Saturday February 12, 2022 @01:08PM (#30314824)
It already is, except they are adults. My experience in United lounges the past year, barely worth free, not worth paying for. Bad coffee, even the on demand espresso capucino maker is crap. Lots of packaged food with signs you have to eat it in the lounge, not intended to take with you. Very little real food. Not a fan.

About the best benefit is if you need customer service to find new flights, no line for that at least. Hilarious you need a lounge pass to get no wait customer service and clean restrooms.

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by chrisseaton on Saturday February 12, 2022 @01:35PM (#30315048)
> My experience in United lounges the past year, barely worth free, not worth paying for.

What United lounges have you been to?

The ones I've been to, for example Newark, have free unlimited restaurant-quality table service, and unlimited premium alcohol, including unlimited Champagne. To be honest I usually look for longer layovers because it's a bit of a treat in there. I love working on their glowing mock-marble bar tops with unlimited iced Champs.

And that's just the basic business-class lounge. I once had the fortune to be in United's Global First lounge in SF, and that was something more again.

https://itstravelseason.com/airlines/united-polaris-lounge-f...

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by gomox on Saturday February 12, 2022 @02:09PM (#30315357)
The basic United lounge is called "United Club", it's a much worse offering than the Polaris lounge you are referring to.
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by reincarnate0x14 on Saturday February 12, 2022 @01:42PM (#30315121)
The customer service desk really is the only thing about that worth it anymore for travel within the US, at least, and "worth it" has been questionable. Lounge access at some international airports is much, much nicer, but only worth it if those are places you're flying.

The United affiliate lounges in much of east Asia make United's own look even more embarrassing unless you're in one of the international first/business ones. Although when the Chicago Polaris lounge was new I got stuck there on a super delayed flight and managed to kill a bottle of Yamazaki whiskey almost by myself, which probably wasn't great for my health and against policy but I slept like a baby on the way to Germany when we finally departed.

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by servercobra on Saturday February 12, 2022 @01:08PM (#30314827)
Or all the lounges stop accepting Priority Pass members when you're actually traveling. The first year I had it it was great, the second year, I traveled like 5 times and every lounge wasn't allowing Priority Pass members.
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by jjeaff on Saturday February 12, 2022 @06:20PM (#30317374)
I think they probably did that because Priority Pass has so few lounges that even accept it anymore.

And I have found that even lounges that PP claims to work with are very quick to tell you that the lounge is full so they can reserve space for their actual business class and first class passengers.

I've been turned away more than once from a club that was supposedly at capacity when more than half the tables are empty.

So I figure priority pass thought, why not offer unlimited? No one can use it anyway.

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by mnadkvlb on Saturday February 12, 2022 @01:06PM (#30314809)
If you dont mind, could you mention which vendor you use for this card, i am using one from a local cantonal bank which is good but doesnt have lounges in.

Thanks

Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by wdb on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:35PM (#30314561)
I wish that happened here in the UK
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by easton on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:26PM (#30314480)
Or, as AA calls it “Hey! Want some magazines?”
Re:Things Delta told the SEC about its SkyMiles program by tehwebguy on Saturday February 12, 2022 @12:08PM (#30314320)
Not even necessary anymore, Delta no longer publishes an award chart so they have flexibility to charge any point amount they wish for any flight!