Miele's user interface isn't that great. I owned a Miele laundry machine. After you press "start" there is no way you can undo that. This sucks. Even missiles have an "unlaunch" feature.

Are you sure? I can hold stop to stop the current program on my Miele washing machine. The key is to hold, not merely tap stop.

With the current WiFi connected Miele laundry machines you can use the app to pause and add more laundry.

With my washing machine, I press the button. It'll say "no", drain down the drum so the water doesn't fall out when the door opens, then say "yes" and the door unlocks.

Apps used: 0.

Would be useful if the machine could select and load the washing itself from the basket, I'd use that app.

but why? I mean if I'm doing laundry I'm within 50 ft of the machine generally? I have never needed to do such an operation or can think of a situation where the added complexity merits the addition of wifi and security threats of a Russian hacker trying to mine etherium on my dish washer.

I can't claim to know every Miele there is but both an early 80s and an early 2010s Miele has pause/continue buttons. On the 2010 one it even looks like a play-pause button.

My first reaction was to write a comment about why you don't need WiFi on a dishwasher. Then I found there may be use cases: you want to start the washing program from the office so it finishes right before you get home. That day when you need to stay another hour in the office, being able to interact with the machine is a nice to have, even if not a really important thing. Same as with air conditioning when you want to save electricity.

If you already have the dishwasher loaded with the dishes before you leave for work, why not just run it then?

We try to avoid running our dishwasher when our toddler is around because he will interfere with the cycle, but sometimes we forget to start it right before heading out the door. Remote start would be handy in a case like that :)

I have a Bosch dishwasher which has the controls inside where kids can’t touch them. Plus it’s insanely quiet

Still an overengineered solution -- a better feature would be some kind of access lock. Either a keycode or something requiring a lot of strength to remove.

(Edit: With that said, I am reluctant to leave the dishwasher on when I'm not present for the first cycle just because of the risk of something going wrong that wasn't adequately checked for.)

But is it worth having yet another insecure & hackable device on the wifi when the manufacturer quits creating FW updates? Or ever even bothers?

Off-peak electricity pricing, not wanting to wake/disturb others with noise, not wanting to consume too much hot water before the rest of the house showers or uses the clothes washer...

My 15yr old dishwasher does this with a timer functionality. This doesn’t sound like the strongest use case.

Yep, it's just a dial that lets me delay up to 12 hours lol. Overengineered hackable electronics. I'd rather than cost go into a more sturdy unit made of better materials. My dishwasher is 20 years old and works fine. The owner of the house before me said he did have one of the timer replaced at some point.

Better not to leave it too long after finishing IME, in terms of water marks and (after days/weeks, if you put it on before going away say) smell.

But that's not appy.

I would find it useful to check whether the dishwasher is currently running. At least BSH has models without any indication outside where the dishwasher is fully hidden behind a frame.

How do you set the wifi password if there's no screen that is capable of showing information?

If it has a screen then surely it's possible to show its current status.

Or, and bear with me because this is a really crazy idea... how about a single LED to show it's busy?

There is no need of a screen. Either a WPS button or start in access point mode, find its IP address, connect to a web server on that address and set the SSID and password there. I got stuff doing both ways upon the first start up or after a factory reset.

>I'd be surprised if they'd do something like that

I don't think that post was necessarily directed at Miele, but at designers designing for design sake in general.

> come running to unload it when it's done?

You don't? You must be one of those people that never unloads the dishwasher until you need something that's in it? weirdo! /s

> You don't? You must be one of those people that never unloads the dishwasher until you need something that's in it? weirdo! /s

Load in the evening, unload in the morning.