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Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by beams_of_light on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @01:32PM (#30089659)
Eradication is not the goal. Making sure hospitals aren't overwhelmed with COVID patients is the goal. Catching COVID is potentially dangerous and often times results in long recovery window. Vaccination is harmless and works. The thread will never subside; this is a new virus we will have to live with for the rest of our lives - especially considering we can't seem to get everyone to do the right thing, even with government mandates.
Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by spookthesunset on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @07:05PM (#30094050)
> Making sure hospitals aren't overwhelmed with COVID patients is the goal.

So fix the capacity issue and your problem is solved without toxic, corrosive and highly controversial government mandates with dubious efficacy. I mean, thus far they've had 2 years to fix the "overwhelmed with COVID patients" problem so we wouldn't have to do all this. At this point it's all just excuses. What gives?

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by perfectstorm on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @07:55PM (#30094520)
> So fix the capacity issue

even if a government build 100 new hospitals in a state do you think they can get enough healthcare workers? at least in Chicago reagion, they are having hard time finding healthcare workers. it's not like hospitals can go to a Med school and ask for 1000 new doctors, respiratory therapists and nurses.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by mchusma on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @09:34PM (#30095463)
Most doctors and nurses do not work in emergency wards. So if it were truly desperate, it seems almost trivial to get more support. There are 200,000 dentists in the US. 115,000 veterinarians.
Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by spookthesunset on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @10:53PM (#30095984)
Everybody on this forum likes to say “there is no IT shortage. People just aren’t paying enough”. Right?

So… …seems like one solution, eh?

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by hbn on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:18PM (#30090354)
> Vaccination is harmless

Oh please, if you want to say it's low-risk, or lower-risk than catching covid, go ahead. But don't just assert outright falsities.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by Fernicia on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:31PM (#30090501)
It's a lot safer than other things we consider harmless.
Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by stronglikedan on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @03:07PM (#30090969)
The thing is, hospitals aren't overwhelmed. Sure, maybe a handful in the most metropolitan of areas, but should the whole country pay for that? I don't think so. Of course, the news makes it seem like hospitals around the country are overwhelmed, but that's just agenda-based sensationalism, and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by FireBeyond on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:05PM (#30091828)
As a critical care paramedic in a semi-rural area, most non-metropolitan hospitals are ill equipped to care for acute respiratory patients, and ship them to metropolitan hospitals.

To quote you: "Should the whole country pay for that", too?

Or maybe those metropolitan hospitals should say "sucks to be you", and let's just see how quickly those rural hospitals collapse under the weight.

My local ER, which is certainly not "in the most metropolitan of areas", which used to _never_ have a bed unavailable, has got to the point where ambulance crews _routinely_ (as in dozens of times, every single day) spend 2 to 6 HOURS with a patient in a hallway, "holding up a wall" (and unable to respond to calls in their community), until the ER can free a bed for them.

Anecdotal, I'm sure you'll scream. But "agenda-based sensationalism" is also entirely your opinion, too.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by raxxorrax on Thursday January 27, 2022 @05:15AM (#30098544)
No, that was explicitly not the goal. That is after the goal has massively shifted when new realities surfaced. Our hospitals are optimized to work at 100% load in normal operation. If any external even increases that load it is expected that there will be problems.

> The thread will never subside

Threat from diseases? No, probably not. But the threat from this virus will be manageable without us changing much.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by donohoe on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @02:13PM (#30090278)
This!

I should have said this, but they mail it.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by password321 on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @03:14PM (#30091063)
>Vaccination is harmless

Tell that to the increasing number of footballers facing cardiac arrest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballer...

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by lelandfe on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @03:47PM (#30091542)
As far as I’m aware, you’re spreading a rumor by claiming there’s a link.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2SL1NJ

> FIFA is not aware of a rise in episodes of cardiac arrests… and no cases have been flagged in relation to individuals receiving a COVID vaccine.

Re:Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates by myko on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:54PM (#30092514)
"The report recorded worldwide deaths attributed to sudden cardiac arrest or other unexplained sudden death while playing (or shortly after playing) football between 2014 and 2018. There were 614 cases during the four-year period."

Is there any evidence the deaths you're posting about were caused by the mRNA vaccines?