So fix the capacity issue and your problem is solved without toxic, corrosive and highly controversial government mandates with dubious efficacy. I mean, thus far they've had 2 years to fix the "overwhelmed with COVID patients" problem so we wouldn't have to do all this. At this point it's all just excuses. What gives?
even if a government build 100 new hospitals in a state do you think they can get enough healthcare workers? at least in Chicago reagion, they are having hard time finding healthcare workers. it's not like hospitals can go to a Med school and ask for 1000 new doctors, respiratory therapists and nurses.
So… …seems like one solution, eh?
Oh please, if you want to say it's low-risk, or lower-risk than catching covid, go ahead. But don't just assert outright falsities.
To quote you: "Should the whole country pay for that", too?
Or maybe those metropolitan hospitals should say "sucks to be you", and let's just see how quickly those rural hospitals collapse under the weight.
My local ER, which is certainly not "in the most metropolitan of areas", which used to _never_ have a bed unavailable, has got to the point where ambulance crews _routinely_ (as in dozens of times, every single day) spend 2 to 6 HOURS with a patient in a hallway, "holding up a wall" (and unable to respond to calls in their community), until the ER can free a bed for them.
Anecdotal, I'm sure you'll scream. But "agenda-based sensationalism" is also entirely your opinion, too.
> The thread will never subside
Threat from diseases? No, probably not. But the threat from this virus will be manageable without us changing much.
I should have said this, but they mail it.
Tell that to the increasing number of footballers facing cardiac arrest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballer...
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2SL1NJ
> FIFA is not aware of a rise in episodes of cardiac arrests… and no cases have been flagged in relation to individuals receiving a COVID vaccine.
Is there any evidence the deaths you're posting about were caused by the mRNA vaccines?
I’d say it’s over when Paxlovid is available widely whenever folks catch it, which should be in a couple months.
Pazlovid reduces risk of death or hospitalization by 90%. Basically turns an unvaccinated into a vaccinated person in terms of outcomes.
I think what you mean to say is "We cannot eradicate COVID-19 with the current vaccines," but to swear off vaccines as if they can't do the work is frankly, dumb.
I know that we eradicated smallpox, but only because there are no animal hosts.
Covid has many animal hosts [0]. You'd have to vaccinate them all to eliminate covid, that includes bats, cats, dogs, primates, deer, etc.
Otherwise covid will keep evolving in animals, and jumping back into the human population, as it appears happened with omicron over the course of about a year in mice [1].
I believe that the parent you replied to is correct, we will not eradicate covid with vaccines.
[0] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/...
[1] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-did-omicr...
Come now. I said no such thing. This is straw man.
>"We will not ever eradicate Covid-19 with vaccination" is the most small minded statement possible to make. We have eradicated so many diseases with vaccination
I suppose with a long enough time horizon we may invent some vaccine to eradicate Covid-19, the common cold, and Influenza.
They don't protect society at all. The herd immunity goal flew out the window with Delta and left the galaxy with Omicron. We will not ever eradicate Covid-19 with vaccination.
>It ends when the the threat subsides.
It should end right now, then. The threat has subsided. We have vaccines and other treatment programs.