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Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by chaos_a on Thursday January 13, 2022 @03:17PM (#29926214)
youtube-dl is what makes most youtube music ripping sites function. Which are widely used by people who aren't paying for music streaming subscriptions.

ex: https://github.com/Rudloff/alltube

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by sib301 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:19PM (#29927009)
No. Alltube isn’t a music ripping site. It’s a site that allows users to download any YouTube video. Some users use this tool to download music.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by sib301 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:20PM (#29927036)
This is like suing VCR manufacturers because some people used them to record music videos off of MTV.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by ok_dad on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:25PM (#29927101)
> suing VCR manufacturers

Might I direct you to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Unive....

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by nostrademons on Thursday January 13, 2022 @06:13PM (#29928350)
Which ruled in favor of Sony, that making personal copies of complete TV shows which you have access to is fair use, and that makers of such devices cannot be held liable as long as there are substantial non-infringing uses.

I suspect that GP didn't pick that example randomly, because youtube-dl is a pretty close analog of a BetaMax.

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by Barrin92 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @09:39PM (#29929991)
Which just makes it a generic ripping site because downloading YouTube videos is breaching the usage terms of the website in general.

"You are not allowed to: access, reproduce, download, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, alter, modify or otherwise use any part of the Service or any Content except: (a) as specifically permitted by the Service; (b) with prior written permission from YouTube and, if applicable, the respective rights holders; or (c) as permitted by applicable law;"

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by kergonath on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:20AM (#29931825)
> (c) as permitted by applicable law

This one alone gives you a whole bunch of reasons to download a video, at least in sane jurisdictions.

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by lkxijlewlf on Thursday January 13, 2022 @03:54PM (#29926709)
It's not generally that great a quality right? Why even bother when you there are so many different ways to get music?
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by ugjka on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:04PM (#29926831)
1) Quality is acceptable

2) Large part of world's population can't afford subscription services

3) There's a lot of music that is not on music streaming services but is on YouTube

4) Sometimes you need the mp3 file (for ringtone, for editing, for remixing etc)

5) There are still some people who rather want everything on their HDD

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by JodieBenitez on Friday January 14, 2022 @12:40AM (#29930990)
6) content disappears from YT all the time, as anyone with large playlists must have notice. Better keep a local copy.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by Karsteski on Thursday January 13, 2022 @06:32PM (#29928529)
> There's a lot of music that is not on music streaming services but is on YouTube

A lot of Caribbean music (Soca, Dancehall, Parang etc.) is like this.

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by dylan604 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:16PM (#29926985)
>It's not generally that great a quality right?

You just described youtube in general. As the old saying goes, "content is king". Look at VHS (if you're old enough to remember). As bad of a quality as it was, everyone used it. Pros would complain about how bad it looked, but the mass populace was just fine with it. Youtube is the same way. In the beginning, the quality was soooo bad, but users didn't care because it gave them endless content.

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by justsomehnguy on Thursday January 13, 2022 @08:57PM (#29929708)
> Look at VHS

Pfft, people bought 5-in-1 DVDs. People bought 10-in-1 DVDs. Average Joe doesn't care about "quality", he wants the content.

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by dylan604 on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:40AM (#29931281)
5 movies encoded to fit on a DVD-9 will still look much better than the typical VHS. They will also sound much better. Comparing DVD to VHS will always have DVD winning, unless the content was encoded from VHS.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by plussed_reader on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:42PM (#29927291)
See: cell phone speakers.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by dillondoyle on Thursday January 13, 2022 @06:28PM (#29928487)
I use paid youtube music and it seems high quality to me I can't tell a difference. Love having different stuff like Tiny Desk.

But more than the quality for the top 100 pop songs almost all the official music videos they now put in like interludes, breaks, talking over and stuff to cut it up so it's not just the song.

Makes listening harder. for those who come to watch the video too.

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by yobert on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:05PM (#29926840)
It's as good of quality as listening directly on YouTube, which is fine enough for most people.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by lottin on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:03PM (#29926814)
People are downloading music clips so that they don't have to listen to ads? Why don't they just install an ad-blocker?
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by iKlsR on Thursday January 13, 2022 @05:23PM (#29927791)
If the avg man knew the concept of an adblocker we would live in a different online world. I've seen people sit and watch 2 minute ads and or complain about how cramped pages are, they know they don't want ads and it's annoying but only a small percentage of that google "block youtube ads" and can click their way to install an extension etc.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by Siira on Thursday January 13, 2022 @07:59PM (#29929238)
Is it possible on iOS as well?
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by r00t4ccess on Thursday January 13, 2022 @08:57PM (#29929709)
The ios youtube app seems to bypass the ad blockers, I stream on ios using brave it blocks youtube ads for me.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by kergonath on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:23AM (#29931857)
There is a Safari extension for this. With the added advantage of replacing the stupid YouTube player with standard video controls.

https://andadinosaur.com/launch-vinegar

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by onemoresoop on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:08PM (#29926889)
Maybe they want the music clips for offline viewing?
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by Shared404 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:20PM (#29927027)
Indeed. If the industry won't give me a simple way to purchase a file, I'll make my own.
Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by zepearl on Thursday January 13, 2022 @04:37PM (#29927224)
That's my case - as I know that some music videos/clips will disappear soon or later for any reason (happened in the past), and as I cannot buy+download them then the only option I'm currently aware of is to download them with youtube-dl. It works reliably and it's simple to use.

In my case this often happens "in addition" to buying+downloading the song's mp3 (usually on Amazon).

Re:Music industry is suing youtube-dl hosters by foxfluff on Thursday January 13, 2022 @06:32PM (#29928537)
I'm downloading them so I can listen without being randomly paused by youtube. Also ends up saving bandwidth massively, and mpv --no-video wastes far less cpu than firefox.