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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by pkulak on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:52PM (#29502769)
My assumption is that Firefox will be implementing the standard, but not the restrictions. Am I wrong there?
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by mkl on Thursday December 09, 2021 @05:26PM (#29503837)
You are pretty much right. There's no need for assumptions though, see https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/05/27/manifest-v3-updat... and https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/09/03/mozillas-manifest....
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by iggldiggl on Friday December 10, 2021 @07:01AM (#29508900)
There are some rumblings as to whether background pages will or will not be removed in Firefox, too, though…
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by amelius on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:55PM (#29502810)
Firefox also implemented DRM.
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by pkulak on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:59PM (#29502861)
I needed them to do that so I could watch Netflix. Debate it all you want, but it made my life measurably better and I'm glad they did it. This would only negatively effect me (and everyone else).
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by handrous on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:33PM (#29503239)
> other people's fake and perfect and amazing lives

Uh, if that's what we're supposed to be using movie and TV streaming services for, I've been watching precisely the wrong things.

Seems more like a description of social media & (not unrelatedly) advertising. Or maybe porn.

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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by contravariant on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:36PM (#29503265)
You can tell this argument is flawed because it applies to all forms of video.
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by danuker on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @04:14AM (#29563644)
It does apply to all forms of video. But that does not make it flawed. What makes it flawed is the cultural norm of watching video.
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by Spivak on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:26PM (#29503159)
Because some people don’t find digital DVD rentals to be an affront to their freedom and just want to watch Squidgame?
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by tomjen3 on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:40PM (#29503314)
That would be Insta, not Netflix where you are watching interesting/awesome stories.
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by ok_dad on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:15PM (#29503036)
DRM doesn't limit anything for the user except for some video content. The day DRM prevents doing things to requests and such, like Manifext v3 does, then I will care. Right now, I'm happy to be able to watch One Punch Man on my laptop.
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by kreetx on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:59PM (#29502855)
I'd guess even if Firefox did keep extensions unrestricted then slowly they would die away - given how much smaller the user base will be. We need some new power to emerge in this space.
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by bee_rider on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:42PM (#29503332)
If Firefox keeps full extension capability, as a superset of Chrome's gimped implementation, then extension developers can decide how they want to handle the incompatibility.

I don't really get how the extension ecosystem works anyway -- extension developers are usually just sharing something they use to be helpful/make a point, and then some tack on donations thing, right? Since nobody is doing this to get rich I suspect they won't chase marketshare.

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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by danuker on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:05PM (#29502922)
I believe they would gain users from Chrome, where you won't be able to block ads anymore.
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by dariusj18 on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:34PM (#29503252)
I would certainly stop using Chrome
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by skinkestek on Thursday December 09, 2021 @05:06PM (#29503626)
Just do it today :-)

I often have a month or more long streak between every time I have to use Ch#%!e ;-)

Bonus point for devs: If it works in Firefox it usually works everywhere since Firefox had always been reasonably standard compliant.

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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by ddingus on Thursday December 09, 2021 @09:16PM (#29505697)
Right. I really need to finish my move off chrome. I get started, and then...

Thanks for saying this.

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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by NewEntryHN on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:42PM (#29503339)
There is surely a bias between users of extensions of uBlock Origin and users of Firefox. The userbase is still smaller, but maybe not enough to completely throw away development.
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by prox on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:55PM (#29502814)
I really hope so. Any good sources to find out Mozilla’s stance?
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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by mirashii on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:19PM (#29503084)
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/05/27/manifest-v3-updat...

> We will support blocking webRequest until there’s a better solution which covers all use cases we consider important, since DNR as currently implemented by Chrome does not yet meet the needs of extension developers.

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Re:Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threate... by tentacleuno on Thursday December 09, 2021 @05:18PM (#29503751)
It would certainly be interesting they implemented blocking webRequest (just to keep compatibility with Chrome) and then added a Firefox-specific API for blocking web requests.
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