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Re:How credit cards make money by steveklabnik on Friday November 05, 2021 @01:46PM (#29122498)
One thing that might be fun to cover: I got in a twitter discussion today about why Europeans don't use credit cards as much as people do in the US. Researching this question and related ones ("why are wire transfers free in Europe but not in the US") are basically impossible to Google, as similar but not actually good results ("the cheapest way to wire money to Europe") drown out any primary resources.
Re:How credit cards make money by avn2109 on Friday November 05, 2021 @02:33PM (#29123101)
Semi-related: What happens with interchange and related fees, when an American credit card is used in Europe?
Re:How credit cards make money by fragmede on Friday November 05, 2021 @03:05PM (#29123488)
Ooh that's a good one. It includes a detour into some really weird forex stuff. If you're used to it it's not that weird but as a American, with US credit card, and a US bank account who then banks exclusively in USD, I found it complicated and fascinating.

Basically, other countries can bank in USD sometimes, so there's a weird corner case that you can send USD to a merchant but can land in their account as $converted_currency or USD that isn't so corner. I'll let patio11 cover this (if/when he gets to it) as there are details I no longer have access to and thus can't do the subject justice.

Re:How credit cards make money by lotsofpulp on Friday November 05, 2021 @04:51PM (#29124613)
As an aside, if you are using no forex fee US credit card, and a foreign merchant asks if you want to pay with USD or the local currency, always choose local currency.

If you choose USD, then the merchant gets to choose whatever exchange rate they want to convert at, and will be far from the spot price (hence some merchants go out of their way to ask you if you want to pay with USD). If you choose the local currency, then your American bank will give you an exchange rate extremely close to the spot rate and the transaction ends up being much cheaper for you.

Re:How credit cards make money by toast0 on Friday November 05, 2021 @04:59PM (#29124684)
Even if you have a card that charges an exchange fee, they likely charge a fee for USD denominated foreign transactions too, although it may be slightly less, and the more favorable exchange rate from your bank may cover the fee.
Re:How credit cards make money by AnssiH on Saturday November 06, 2021 @07:34AM (#29129328)
It does not directly answer your question, but many (most?) merchant agreements in EU have significantly higher fees for accepting non-EU cards. E.g. Stripe takes 1.4% vs 2.9% for EU vs non-EU (card-present EMV transactions are typically much lower cost, but that still shows the idea).
Re:How credit cards make money by jltsiren on Friday November 05, 2021 @08:23PM (#29126191)
That may be because you are asking the wrong questions. Each country had developed its own banking culture before EU started harmonizing things. You may get better results by googling for the reasons in a specific country, preferably in their language.

Once you start investigating, you will find many different reasons. Some cultures favor cash because it's concrete, or for privacy reasons. In some countries, banks prioritized efficiency and were quick to phase out checks in favor of wire transfers. In many cases, stores were used to cheap domestic payment methods and didn't start accepting international credit cards until banks made them cheap enough. And in some cultures, there is a deep aversion to anything related to debt. If you dig further, many of the reasons can be traced back to adverse experiences in the 20th century, including world wars, the hard times after them, hyperinflation, and living under nazi/communist rule.

Re:How credit cards make money by brummm on Friday November 05, 2021 @05:30PM (#29124926)
Interchange rates in Europe are capped at an order of magnitude lower than in the US. The economics of rewards credit cards just don't work out in Europe.
Re:How credit cards make money by darkwater on Friday November 05, 2021 @03:07PM (#29123509)
> ("why are wire transfers free in Europe but not in the US")

this applies only to a subset of Europe or european banks.

Re:How credit cards make money by bosie on Friday November 05, 2021 @03:22PM (#29123682)
Do you want to expand where it isn't the case?
Re:How credit cards make money by 101keyboard on Saturday November 06, 2021 @12:22PM (#29131516)
IBAN EU Transfers have to be free by law AFAIK

Instant transfers may cost fees

Europe is bigger than EU.

Re:How credit cards make money by bosie on Sunday November 07, 2021 @03:38PM (#29143299)
Are there countries where wire transfers cost money within a country?

> Europe is bigger than eu

Condescending much? Especially since this doesn’t mean anything for the question asked