If Apple is buying Intel CPUs, there's no reason making direct performance comparisons to competitors. They're all building out of the same parts bin. They would want to talk about the form factor and the display - areas where they could often out-do competitors. Now there's actually something to talk about with the CPU/GPU/hardware-performance.
I think Apple is also making the comparison to push something else: performance + lifestyle. For me, the implication is that I can buy an Intel laptop that's nicely portable, but a lot slower; I could also buy an Intel laptop that's just as fast, but requires two power adapters to satisfy its massive power drain and really doesn't work as a laptop at all. Or I can buy a MacBook Pro which has the power of the heavy, non-portable Intel laptops while sipping less power than the nicely portable ones. I don't have to make a trade-off between performance and portability.
I think people picked apart the comparisons on the M1 and were pretty satisfied. 6-8 M1 performance cores will offer a nice performance boost over 4 M1 performance cores and we basically know how those cores benchmark already.
I'd also note that there are efforts to get Linux on Apple Silicon.
This kind of fell by the wayside after switching to Intel, for obvious reasons: the chips weren’t differentiators anymore.
Previously I got 2017 Macbook Air SSD upgraded using an SSD and an adapter that I ordered from Amazon.
What’s that narrative that Apple devices are not upgradable or repairable?
It simply not true. If anything, Apple devices are the easiest to get serviced since there are not many models and pretty much all repair shops can deal with all devices that are still usable. Because of this, even broken Apple devices are sold and bought all the time.
Nice, except doing a screen replacement on a modern iPhone like the 13 series will disable your FaceID making your iPhone pretty much worthless.
>Previously I got 2017 Macbook Air SSD upgraded using an SSD and an adapter that I ordered from Amazon
Nice, but on the modern Macbooks, the SSD is soldered and not replaceable. There is no way to upgrade them or replace them if they break, so you just have to throw away the whole laptop.
So yea, parent was right, Apple devices are the worst for reparability period since the ones you're talking about are not manufactured anymore therefore don't represent the current state of affairs and the ones that are manufactured today are built to not be repaired.
Screen replacement is 50$, glass replacement is 30$.
iPhone 13 is very new, give it a few years and the hardware people will leverage the desire of not spending 1000$ on a new phone when the current one works fine except for that broken part.
if there’s a demand there would be a response.
I'm talking about 2020 devices where you can't just "change the chips" and hope it works like in the 2015 model from the video you posted.
Modern Apple devices aren't repairable anymore.
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Anyway, people are crafty and engineering is not an Apple-exclusive trade. believe it or not, Apple can’t do anything about the laws of physics.
That’s known as private-public key crypto with keys burnt into efuses on-die on the SoC.
You can’t get around that (except for that one dude in Shenzhen who just drills into the SoC and solders wires by hand which happen to hit the right spots). But generally, no regular third party repair shop will find a way around this.
You know, these encryption authentications work between ICs and not between lenses and motors. Keep the coded IC, change the coil. Things also have different breaking modes, for example a screen might break down due to the glass failure(which cannot be coded) and the repair shop can replace the broken assembly part when keeping the IC that ensures the communication with the mainboard. Too complicated for a street shop? Someone will build a service that does it B2B, shops will ship it ti them, they will ship it back leaving only the installation to the street shop.
Possibilities are endless. Some easier some harder but we are talking about talent that makes all kind of replicas of all kind of devices. With billions of iPhones out there, it's actually very lucrative market to be able to salvage 1000USD device, their margins could be even better than the margins of Apple when they charge 100USD to change the glass of the LCD assembly.
Watch Luis Rosmann on youtube.
Instead of watching videos and getting angry about Apple devices being impossible to repair, I get my Apple devices repaired when something breaks. Significantly more productive approach, you should try it.
Your old Apple devices, that are known to be vert easy to repair. You wouldn't be so confident with the latest gear.
But why spoil it for you? Let's talk in a few year when you find it out the hard way on your own skin.
Here is a video from 2013, him complaining that Apple doesn't let people repair their products: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdlZ1HgFvxI
He recently moved to a new larger shop in attempt to grew his Apple repair operations. Then had to move back to a smaller shop because as it turns out, it wasn't Apple who is ruining his repair business.
You will need to make a choice sometimes. Often you can't have small efficient and repairable all the time.
Only if you go to someone who isn't an authorised Apple repairer.
I mean, you can replace the logic board. Wasteful, sure, but there's no need to throw out the whole thing.
There's also the fact that Apple does things like integrate the display connector into the panel part. So, if it fails - like when Apple made it too short with the 2016 and 2017 Macbook Pros causing the flexgate controversy - it requires replacing a $600 part instead of a $6 one.
As far as I understand, the less components and heat, the longer the electronics keep working.
>According to iFixit, the Surface Laptop isn’t repairable at all. In fact, it got a 0 out of 10 for repairability and was labeled a “glue-filled monstrosity.”
The lowest scores previously were a 1 out of 10 for all previous iterations of the Surface Pro
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/251046-ifixit-labels-s...
Basically, they can only change a few components (keyboard, display (with assembly), motherboard, and probably the aluminium case), but that's it.
It's made to be thrown away, instead of repaired.
The phones in my family are an iPhone 6S, iPhone 8 and an iPhone XS. All running the latest iOS. The 6S got a battery swap for 50€, others still going strong.
Similar with tablets, we have three and the latest one is a 2017 iPad Pro. All running the latest iPadOS.
Stuff doesn't need to be repairable and upgradable if it can outlast the competition by a factor of two while still staying on the latest official OS update.
Can't do that with any Android device. A 6 year old PC laptop might still be relevant though.
Also, implying that repairability is required for environmental sustainability is questionable at best. People in their vast majority tend to get rid of 5 years old phones and laptops.
I really enjoy linux as a development environment, but this is going to be VERY difficult to compete with..
I'm kidding, that stuff has no affect on anything.
Justifiable, as in "does this make practical sense", is not the word, because it doesn't. Justifiable, as in, "does it fit within my budget?" yes that's accurate. I don't have a short answer to why my personal budget is that flexible, but I do remember there was a point in my life where I would ask the same thing as you about other people. The reality is that you either have it or you don't. That being said, nothing I had been doing for money is really going to max this kind of machine out or improve my craft. But things that used to be computationally expensive won't be anymore. Large catalogues of 24 megapixel RAWs used to be computationally expensive. Now I won't even notice, even with larger files and larger videos, and can expand what I do there along with video processing, which is all just entertainment. But I can also do that while running a bunch of docker containers and VMs... within VMs, and not think about it.
This machine, for me, is the catalyst for greater consumptive spending though. I've held off on new cameras, new NASs, new local area networking, because my current laptop and devices would chug under larger files.
Hope there was something to glean from that context. But all I can really offer is "make, or simply have, more money", not really profound.
Like there’s the potential tax deductibility, along with being a store of value (it will probably be $2300 in a few years but thats okay), making it easier to rationalize future laptops in the future by trading this one in. But I’m not betting on any of that.
I’ve just been waiting for this specific feature set, I’m upgrading from a maxed out dual GPU 2015 MBP that I purchased in 2017.
I skipped the whole divergence and folly.
No butterfly keyboards, no tolerating usbc while the rest of the world caught up, no usbc charging, no touch bar, I held out. And now I get Apple Silicon which already had rave reviews and blew everything else out of the water in the laptop space, and now I get the version with the RAM I want.
Surprisingly little fanfare, on my end. Which is kind of funny because I remember fondly configuring expensive maxed out Apple computers on their website that I could never afford. Its definitely more monumental if you save money for one specific thing and achieve that. But now I just knew I was already going to do it if Apple released a specific kind of M1 upgrade in a specific chassis, which they did and more. So it fit within my available credit, and which I’ll pay off likely by the end of the week, and I’m also satisfied that I get the points and a spending promotion my credit card had told me about.
But I was going to buy this irregardless.
My time is worth so much more to me than money.
It's because I need to use my computer whilst not physically attached to the same spot i.e. between work/home, travel.
You know the same reason as almost everyone else.
What does saparate machine for work has to do with "compilation speeds" in the first place?
To be clear, I'm not getting one of these, but there's clearly people that will drop extra thousands into a "performance machine" just because they like performance machines and they can do it. It doesn't really need to be justified.
Truthfully, I'm struggling to imagine the scenario where a "performance laptop" is justifiable to produce, in the sense you mean it. Surely, in most cases, a clunky desktop is sufficient and reasonably shipped when traveling, and can provide the required performance in 99% of actual high-performance-needed scenarios.
If I had money to burn, though, I'd definitely be buying a luxury performance laptop before I'd be buying an update to my jalopy. I use my car as little as I possibly can. I use my computer almost all the time.
When commenting on Mac hardware it is always difficult for me to separate wishful thinking, cultism and actual facts.
My personal desktop was about $4k for what's inside the case. Add in my $2k monitor, and I'm right up there.
Some people call it excessive, I do too. But man, my desktop is blazing fast and my gaming experience is top notch.
The $1000 5950x was the easiest decision. Cut my compile times by 80%.
If I was serious about a portable development and such machine that many people with MacBooks are, I could see dropping $6k.
I'm not, hence I have a $2k M1 MBA and remote into my gaming desktop for anything where speed matters.
My work flow is intensive yet critical:
I have at all times the following open:
ELECTRON APPS: Slack, Telegram, Teams, Discord, Git Kraken, VSCode (multiple workspaces hosting different repos all running webpack webservers with hot module reloading), Trading View.
NATIVE APPS: Firefox (10 - 32 tabs, many with live web socket connections such as stock trading sites, various web email providers, and at least one background YouTube video or twitch stream), Chrome (~6 tabs with alternate accounts using similar web socketed connections), iTerm, Torrent client (with multiple active transfers).
All of this is being displayed on two external 4k screens + the laptop.
So ya, I can justify maxxed out specs as my demands are far higher than that of an average user and that's with me actively closing things I don't need. Also my work will happily pay for it, so why not?
Not to mention if it makes a 200k salary worker 5% more productive, its a win. (Give or take for taxes.)
I'll be very curious to see those comparisons picked apart when people get their hands on these, and I think it's time for me to give Macbooks another chance after switching exclusively to linux for the past couple years.