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Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by fxtentacle on Friday September 24, 2021 @05:02PM (#28647774)
Haha I should have mentioned that one as a repeat offender. After the Surface wakes up, reboots, makes noise, gets hot, and drains 20% of its battery, if I then run "powercfg.exe /lastwake" it'll pretend that it did not wake up X_X

And in my case, there wasn't any non-Microsoft drivers on the system. The issue appears to be that they do magical stuff when they spot a WiFi connection, or when my WiFi router does its daily reboot.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by Aerroon on Saturday September 25, 2021 @06:20AM (#28651961)
>The issue appears to be that they do magical stuff when they spot a WiFi connection, or when my WiFi router does its daily reboot.

I think that might've been my issue that kept waking up my desktop. I tried disabling everything I could to stop wake ups - to make it only wake up on pressing the power button, but I never got it to work properly. The desktop would just seemingly randomly decide that it wants to wake up again. I eventually stopped trying to put computers to sleep - it's either shut down or it just stays running.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by fouc on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:50AM (#28653186)
Sometimes I turn off my laptop's wifi before putting it to sleep, and it makes a big difference in battery life.
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by mjaniczek on Friday September 24, 2021 @06:26PM (#28648472)
Offtopic:

> or when my WiFi router does its daily reboot.

Damn, I think that might fix 99% of the issues I have with my WiFi router.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by naikrovek on Friday September 24, 2021 @10:06PM (#28649809)
I have a $300 Ubiquiti Dream Machine and that thing CANT be scheduled to reboot. doesn't matter because Ethernet dies twice a day, and I need to use my phone to get to the admin page to restart the thing. most annoying and expensive router I've ever owned.

I DO NOT understand how all routers I have ever owned are total garbage, but they all have been.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by sgarland on Saturday September 25, 2021 @02:59PM (#28655356)
A child comment stating its sensitivity to power dips may be the cause here. I don't have a UDM, but I do have a lot of Unifi equipment and the only issues I've ever had are an AP dropping clients and refusing to pick new ones up, and a switch latching onto a bad local route and refusing to let it go. Rebooting the devices fixed it in both cases.

By far, internet connectivity has never been better at my house. I've had various Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys devices. Unifi beats everything hands-down.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by naikrovek on Thursday September 30, 2021 @03:58PM (#28710615)
I think you were right. after reading your comment, and the other you mentioned, I ordered a small UPS that will shield my modem and router from transient power problems, and while it hasn't been a full day, yet, I haven't had to reboot anything since I installed that guy.

so far I am quite glad that I mentioned my problem here.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by jrwr on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:59AM (#28653274)
The only router I've had not give me any gruff is the Mikrotik stuff, hot damn is it hard to configure as its very advanced at times, but once its configured. it /never/ goes down
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by AngryData on Sunday September 26, 2021 @04:57AM (#28659415)
I got a MikroTik router just a few months ago and it does run great, has anything you could want under the sun, and it was even cheap! But like you said, it is very advanced, and as a network noob I probably spent 12 hours configuring it to do everything I wanted despite considering myself pretty tech savy, and don't even know exactly what I did to make it work as I wanted. Although if it is just a single router typical home setup most people could just use a default setup and make it work.

The community also seemed pretty elitist, I went through many forum posts about people with similar setup questions and/or problems as myself and fairly often they got simply berated when they didn't understand what a certain setting actually did or didn't understand exactly what people were having them input through a 30 item terminal command. The wiki has an example of just about everything once but even that was far from comprehensive when there are 20+ different options and you don't know what they mean and the example on the wiki picks just one of them and doesn't explain why they chose that one.

I don't regret the purchase at all, however I don't think I could feel safe in randomly recommending it to anybody except the most tech savy of my tech savy friends.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by fegu on Saturday September 25, 2021 @06:29AM (#28651994)
Some routers (and other electronics) are very sensitive to short spikes or drips in mains power. Having some heavy duty stuff such as heating cables or water heater or tumble dryer on the same circuit is enough. Get equipment to monitor it.
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by naikrovek on Thursday September 30, 2021 @03:59PM (#28710623)
I got a small UPS and it seems to be doing the trick. thank you!
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by naikrovek on Friday October 01, 2021 @07:38PM (#28724610)
I was wrong. different problems now, not the "it just works" result I was hoping for.
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by pixiemaster on Saturday September 25, 2021 @02:54AM (#28651076)
i use a mechanical clocked power outlet that cuts power once a day to the router
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by linker3000 on Saturday September 25, 2021 @05:14AM (#28651686)
I've an external Webcam on wifi that occasionally loses its connection. I also have some basic home automation for lighting and a weather station, based on a Raspberry Pi running Node-RED.

The cam is pinged every 5 mins and if it doesn't respond, Node-RED power cycles a mains switch connected to it - and sends me an email! If the camera doesn't come back, the power is cycled up to a total of 5 times before I get a final email that says I need to take a look.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by washadjeffmad on Saturday September 25, 2021 @09:04AM (#28652851)
Put it behind a UPS and buy one of their smart plugs. It'll detect internet outages and reset the connected device automatically.

Also, I buy and deploy a lot of Unifi/ER equipment and that doesn't happen. I think you've noticed there's a common factor in your final statement, though.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by naikrovek on Saturday September 25, 2021 @10:07AM (#28653331)
it is a bit messed up that you think it's me. I change configs on these things only enough to get them to function, and then I leave them alone.

and what exactly could I be doing to cause random DNS failures, or to cause DHCP to fail only on Ethernet ports? these things can't be configured to do that. they're consumer-grade routers and consumer-grade routers are garbage. all of them.

every enterprise router or access point I administer at work functions just fine for years at a time.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by gambiting on Sunday September 26, 2021 @11:54AM (#28661898)
I know it's just an anecdote, but I've always had issues buying(very expensive) home routers from netgear or Linksys, super unreliable devices no matter the price - finally gave up and just started using my ISP provided router(BT whatever hub, latest one) - zero issues. Rock solid WiFi and ethernet. I can see the uptime on it right now is over 100 days and I have no reason to restart it. Yes it's not quite as configurable as some of the other routers I've had but at least it just works.
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by Nexxxeh on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @10:11AM (#28682985)
It just works when it works.

Static devices (as opposed to DHCP reservations) will just (seemingly) randomly stop working with port forwarding, as the router just forgets the device. You can shake it out of that by pinging the device from the router's diag tools, or power cycling the router resolves the issue. Not great for CCTV DVRs/NVRs.

"Smart setup" sometimes breaks stuff, especially IoT stuff.

Your device may or may not just randomly factory reset itself. (I've had one do it twice in three years, to the point where I now save the config.)

It may or may not completely ruin your Sky Q system's reliability if you have more than one box (although I generally advocate wiring them in completely and disabling all wireless functionality anyway).

The automatic channel setting for the WiFi channels is a total dice roll.

The DNS interception rubbish breaks stuff. Most recent example was I was having infuriating issues with Ubiquiti's AP guest portal... Until I switched the BT Business Hub into a dumb modem and put a cheap ER-x in front. Rock solid since.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by washadjeffmad on Sunday September 26, 2021 @06:22PM (#28665198)
I'm glad you're pleased, although I know that's also a relative experience. I recently helped a colleague using Free[1] in France and was blown away by... pretty much all of it.

He was paying €15/mo for 4K television plus 1/0.6Gbit fiber internet on custom hardware they'd provided. I can't help but feel something went terribly wrong in the US for us to be happy with our $80/mo cable options and dated, generic hardware.

[1] https://www.free.fr/freebox/

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by exikyut on Friday September 24, 2021 @10:24PM (#28649915)
(Computer that's always on + $2 Wi-Fi dongle (or a slightly more expensive one with an actual antenna, if required) + network namespace-specific alternate route = scriptable scheduled reboot.

Hm, or you could just use a Raspberry Pi.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by katbyte on Saturday September 25, 2021 @04:25AM (#28651496)
Weird, my udm pro goes months with no issues.. current uptime of most UniFi devices on my network is over 70 days right now. I’d say contact support because it shouldn’t so that, but their support isn’t great
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by sponaugle on Saturday September 25, 2021 @11:17AM (#28653785)
Same here - My UDM Pro is over 90 days uptime, and that last reboot was only because I did an upgrade. I have heard of some people having problems, but mine has been flawless so far.
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by naikrovek on Monday September 27, 2021 @04:32AM (#28668387)
I've ordered a UPS and I guess I'll see if that's the issue.

I use a lot of fans in my house to circulate air, and when someone uses the microwave, half of the fans slow down, and half speed up significantly. no idea how half could speed up, but they do. so, something is up with something, somewhere.

I expect this UPS to beep a lot.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by katbyte on Monday September 27, 2021 @05:11PM (#28676068)
oh that could easily do it! anytime there are weird issues with computers and no obvious cause power and/or RAM are the likely culprits.

good luck! hope it works, UDM pro isn't without its issues, but it's pretty dang good for what it does!

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by vinay_ys on Saturday September 25, 2021 @10:46AM (#28653588)
I have a Nokia GPON Home Gateway+Wifi Router given by my Fiber ISP. And it is on UPS and its been running for weeks without reboot just fine.
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by thebruce87m on Saturday September 25, 2021 @10:20AM (#28653416)
Teltonika seem to make the least garbage routers I have tried. Lots of options to failover, reboot if pings fail etc too
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by Shorel on Saturday September 25, 2021 @01:48PM (#28654871)
Why is that necessary?

My router reboots only when the electricity is cut. So many weeks or even months between each reboot.

Wi-Fi works, Ethernet works even better, and I have some Automobilista (videogame) servers open to the world.

It is a big issue if my IP changes, so I am very aware of all these things.

Still, no reboots needed.

Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by icelancer on Friday September 24, 2021 @06:50PM (#28648665)
Yeah it helps. I recommend it as well, I have it scheduled to reboot at 5:15 AM every day.
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by da_chicken on Monday September 27, 2021 @08:20AM (#28669746)
I scheduled my WiFi router to reboot once a week. Ever since then I have to think about it about as often as I do my microwave.
Re:Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mo... by AuthorizedCust on Friday September 24, 2021 @06:01PM (#28648301)
Are you sure it went to sleep? I’ve had prior issues on a Surface and a 9310 where it appeared to sleep but didn’t. I found that out through Event Viewer.