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Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by Karrot_Kream on Monday August 09, 2021 @07:00PM (#28123372)
Airships would make a fantastic, greener alternative to a cruise ship. I suspect winds to be its biggest sticking point.
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by ecpottinger on Monday August 09, 2021 @09:01PM (#28124158)
I have gone on a of number cruises, especially on the Alaskan cruise and Panama cruise the one thing I never heard from anyone was "I wish they traveled faster.".

There is a number of trips that a slow and quiet trip would make for great fun.

Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by ThePadawan on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:21AM (#28125989)
During the uncertainty of when/if ports would reopen across Europe, some UK cruise companies went so far as to simply offer "cruises to nowhere".

I.e. they would set off the usual ports, but not head for continental Europe, just sail out to a calm spot with agreeable climate and hang out there for a while.

Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by thefounder on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:36AM (#28126444)
Why did they leave the port at all?
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by gambiting on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:43AM (#28126491)
Because I can't imagine people are happy to pay to sit for a week in an industrial dock in Portsmouth. Also sailing to warmer waters means you can sit on the outside deck/balcony and enjoy the sun. Again, not exactly the things UK ports are well known for.
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by Broken_Hippo on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @06:51AM (#28127210)
I'm going to guess that there are laws that make that pretty undesirable. For example: There were (and maybe still are) gambling ships on the Ohio river and on Lake Michigan - all of which docked in Indiana. Unfortunately, such gambling was illegal in Indiana. The ships had to leave dock and go out a little on the water. Suddenly, the gambling was legal.

There are probably dozens of these laws that encourage leaving the dock, especially if you are going into international waters instead of simply between states.

Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by dr_dshiv on Sunday August 15, 2021 @04:35AM (#28187155)
Yes, the LA to Las Vegas gambling air cruiser would be a profitable route. Sunsets would be fantastic!
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by TylerE on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:16AM (#28125369)
The problem is scale.

The Hindenberg design, despite being 800ft long, only accommodated 50 passengers, in TINY cabins (6.5' x 5').

The entire cabin was 6000 sqft.

Even the "cheap" cabins on a modern cruise ship are ~150sqft each, and all have private bathrooms.

Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by hutzlibu on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:07AM (#28126627)
But we do have lighter materials to build with, avaiable today?

So a same size blimp could give more room. And why not just build bigger blimps.

Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by LeonM on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @07:04AM (#28127285)
Yes, we could make a larger cabin with the same weight constraints using modern composite materials.

But even with lighter materials, you would still not be able to accommodate more passengers comfortably. The majority of weight-per-passenger will come from water (which every passenger needs for showering, toilets, food preparation). You would need to land regularly just for passenger hygene reasons. So I still don't expect blimps will be a 'comfortable' alternative to cruise ships.

Random fun fact: The Hindenburg had a grand piano made from aluminium, as a regular piano would have been too heavy.

Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by hutzlibu on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @08:44AM (#28128110)
I think there is usually lots of water in the sky. You could just pipe in a cloud ...
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by TylerE on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @10:17PM (#28150894)
Condensers are going to be heavy, too.
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by dr_dshiv on Sunday August 15, 2021 @04:27AM (#28187106)
When you have tons of surface area for free and a big temperature difference, I'm sure water condensation can be done in a different way.
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by nickik on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @06:18PM (#28135411)
Random fun fact 2: They even removed that piano because it was to heavy.
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by simonebrunozzi on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:38PM (#28134118)
> Random fun fact: The Hindenburg had a grand piano made from aluminium, as a regular piano would have been too heavy.

This is truly fascinating. I didn't know that.

Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by dr_dshiv on Sunday August 15, 2021 @04:32AM (#28187137)
Random fun fact-- the only lady on the first round the world zeppelin trip secretly brought on a phonograph!
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by adrianN on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:43AM (#28126836)
Cruise ships are absolutely massive. They're floating cities, housing and feeding thousands of people. The new materials would have to be very light indeed to scale from 50 to 5000 passengers.
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by hutzlibu on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:55AM (#28126906)
I would be fine with 50-150 people per module. And then you can maybe meet in air. Combine them or seperate them. Land or go up very high. Drift where the wind blows. The sky is big.
Re:Bring back hydrogen lifting gas by rob74 on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:59AM (#28125569)
Then any sufficiently interesting city in the world will be able to experience the joys of regularly being invaded by cruise tourists - yay for that! Fortunately airships won't be able to hold quite as many passengers as a cruise ship...