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Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by jdhn on Saturday July 17, 2021 @02:33PM (#27867768)
My curiosity is getting the better of me, why would you choose the Salton Sea as a vacation destination?
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by dehrmann on Saturday July 17, 2021 @03:31PM (#27868154)
Historically, it was a pretty popular vacation destination.

> In the 1950s and into the 1960s, the communities expanded as the area's reputation as a resort destination and sport fishery grew.[18] Hotels and yacht clubs were built on the shore along with homes and schools.[19] Resorts in communities like Bombay Beach hosted entertainers such as Frank Sinatra, The Beach Boys and Bing Crosby.[20] Yacht clubs held parties at night and golf courses provided recreation.[19] Many people came for boating activities such as water skiing and fishing as stocked fish proliferated.[21] Lakeshore communities grew as vacation homes were built.[15] More than 1.5 million visitors visited annually at the peak.[22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea#Agriculture,_touris...

Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by iamnotwhoiam on Saturday July 17, 2021 @11:25PM (#27870570)
Was there ever any hope that the environment was sustainable or was it basically a real estate pump and dump?

The future could be calculated from a salinity chart and still people bought and sold expensive homes.

Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by xeromal on Sunday July 18, 2021 @12:07AM (#27870701)
It could've lasted much longer if agriculture runoff hadn't poisoned the lake and killed all the fish. It would've lasted until enough evaporation had taken place to concentrate the salts and kill the fish.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by narrator on Saturday July 17, 2021 @05:00PM (#27868830)
Nearby Slab City is an interesting place to visit if one is into weird stuff. It's an old abandoned area that was once a military base that people have turned into a very unplanned squatter community. It's notable because there are some impressive community art pieces.

The place has managed to avoid accumulating the truly destructive squatter elements (e.g people with severe mental illness or substance abuse problems,though meth is a problem) because it is remote, there are no services, and it is dangerously hot during the summer time. Thus, it's pretty hard to live there without at least a modest RV and some planning, which has made it a bit more inviting and interesting than the usual homeless encampment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slab_City,_California

Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by state_less on Saturday July 17, 2021 @09:15PM (#27870077)
Slab City is featured in the movie Into The Wild. The movie sends you through many of these out of the way places on Chris’s journey through the North American West.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by api on Sunday July 18, 2021 @10:02AM (#27872979)
With Starlink you will be able to have a few real cyberpunk squatters out there. Plenty of solar power too.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by snypher on Sunday July 18, 2021 @11:56AM (#27873967)
$100 bucks a month and 100W power usage might keep it out of most people's hands for a while.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by stickfigure on Sunday July 18, 2021 @12:17PM (#27874126)
That's $200 worth of solar panels? If Starlink and food is your only expense...
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by narrator on Monday July 19, 2021 @02:51PM (#27886024)
Too bad they don't have Starlink, but for water and food.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by lanstin on Saturday July 17, 2021 @03:04PM (#27867988)
It is the second largest lake in California. I was new to California and just looking for interesting things. My quick googling was clearly insufficient. Tho it was interesting in some sense. Also it’s kind of in the area of the other places that were ok. Tar pits are awesome. Mt Palomar very cool. Las Vegas unique and notable if not actually my cup of tea.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by Exmoor on Saturday July 17, 2021 @04:41PM (#27868682)
OP replied with their reason, but I personally have visited the Salton Sea numerous times when in southern California. I find it truly fascinating. It has a very post-apocolyptic feel. From an ecological perspective it occupies a very unique niche. It's 90 miles form the nearest ocean and has large populations of oceanic birds such as Brown Pelicans.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by jacobkg on Saturday July 17, 2021 @05:49PM (#27869116)
Post apocalyptic is right. When we drove by it we also encountered a number of large ATV groups driving around, mad max style
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by reitzensteinm on Saturday July 17, 2021 @07:25PM (#27869611)
My irrational hope is that parent is a GM executive, dragging their family along to the site of future business deals.

Like Ludendorff holidaying covertly to the fortifications at Liège in Belgium prior to World War 1.

Kids sour faced in the back seats wishing you worked at Disney.

Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by jws on Saturday July 17, 2021 @03:13PM (#27868056)
Just west of it is Ocotillo Wells. You can rent a quad bike and tour around it for an afternoon. There is a fossil reef (oyster shells), an odd rock formation called the pumpkin patch, some mud with mysterious subterranean gas that bubbles out, and general desert scenery. A little further west is Anza Borrega. More desert, but there is a nice hike through the desert to a palm tree oasis which just sort of pops up out of nowhere. Outside the town are inexplicable (unless you read about it) huge steel sculptures.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by krallja on Saturday July 17, 2021 @04:29PM (#27868567)
I had my family stop by a few years ago because I had heard about it in a What-If? https://what-if.xkcd.com/152/

I wouldn't recommend it. The route we took was through a residential area. The neighbors did not seem like they wanted us to be there. We went to the water's edge, smelled the "objectionable," "noxious," "unique," and "pervasive" odor (as described by the US Geological Survey), looked at the shitty beach, and left. There's not much to do.

Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by MisterTea on Saturday July 17, 2021 @06:56PM (#27869452)
That's because it's slum tourism and residents hate being the unwilling cast of a sideshow attraction. "Oh honey, look at the locals inhaling the toxic plume wafting off this mess we can safely leave behind forever in a few minutes. Say cheese!"

There's a neighborhood by me which has earned a similar reputation and the residents have been known to tell slum tourists to leave.

Its gross. Don't do that.

Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by phlakaton on Sunday July 18, 2021 @11:33AM (#27873748)
I disagree. People who don't go to see the Salton Sea and its consequences are free to ignore it. But seeing it will put an likely-indelible memory in your head that will stick with you, and might give you some much-needed context about why people are fighting to do something about it.

The key of course, is to travel with respect. Bombay Beach is probably not a place for casual selfies and party times.

There is still beauty there, for people who can look past the unpleasant. A state visitor center with the whole wild history of the place. Beaches made out of pulverized tilapia bone and shell. Fields of obsidian. The zonked-out but earnest spirituality of Salvation Mountain. Date shakes from Westmorland. Endless sun.

Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by xeromal on Sunday July 18, 2021 @12:08AM (#27870702)
Yeah, most people are there because they grew up there and its their home and most of them are too broke to leave. It's pretty gross. If you want to support the locals, go buy a few dates and gas.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by krallja on Wednesday July 21, 2021 @06:25PM (#27912967)
I agree. I didn’t realize before we made the stop that there were still people living there. It felt gross for all the reasons you describe, plus the Salton air.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by Fricken on Saturday July 17, 2021 @04:32PM (#27868602)
For the same reasons people may enjoy playing Fallout 4.
Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by eplanit on Saturday July 17, 2021 @04:55PM (#27868794)
For me, it would be because of a great ("great" as in Ed Wood style film-making) movie "The Monster that Challenged the World" (even the title seems low budget).

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050722/

tl;dr "An earthquake in the Salton Sea unleashes a horde of prehistoric mollusk monsters. Discovering the creatures, a Naval officer and several scientists attempt to stop the monsters, but they escape into the canal system of the California's Imperial Valley and terrorize the populace"

Re:GM has signed an agreement to extract lithium from beneat... by tinus_hn on Sunday July 18, 2021 @10:13AM (#27873056)
Fitting in a thread about a documentary narrated by John ‘Pink Flamingoes’ Waters